Talk:Kerby, Oregon

Cabax mill, McArthur
The article is certainly a good start. There's more information from the JoCo historical society, but I don't have a good (ISBN) reference.

I've never seen "Kabax" as the spelling for the mill, and can't find any reference to that spelling on the web (other than one which points back in here.) When did the mill close? I think 1996, but I'm not sure.

I wonder at McArthur as a source - some of the things in the article (which I assume come from McArthur) I've never seen before, including some of the name variants (though, certainly, there were a lot.)

Jbowler (talk) 08:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC) John Bowler


 * Hiya, thanks for your input. This version is what I started with, using McArthur as a reference, and I can assure you that all of that is accurate (I paid extra close attention because the naming stuff was so confusing.) Hopefully I've provided enough citations for all that info. That said, I've often come across other sources that contradict things McArthur has written (note that some of the info in McArthur was gathered as early as the 1920s, I think, and better sources could have been found since then). McArthur is a *great* resource, but if there are other reliable sources that show that things might have occured differently, they would be a fine addition to the article. A lot of this naming stuff relies on hearsay, as far as I can tell. Anyway, I can't vouch for the other info in the article, but I've tried to clean up the subsequent additions, which may include a little original research. Please add anything you find out (with citations, of course), it's an interesting little place! Katr67 (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It would appear that the proper spelling was "Cabax". See the following court case from 1965: http://www.timbertax.org/research/caselaw/court_cases/c/cabax/.  They were apparently headquartered in Eugene, Oregon. — QuicksilverT @ 00:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Good authorities
Ruth Pfefferle, "Golden Days and Pioneer Ways", Bulletin Publishing Company, Grants Pass, Oregon, also "Published 1977 by Josephine County Historical Society, Second Printing 1995."

I can find no ISBN on the book. I believe it is readily available in the Illinois Valley Visitor Center (located on the right at the start of Oregon Highway 46, Caves Highway.)

Jbowler (talk) 16:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC) John Bowler

Henry Chenoweth
After some searching (I used "ghosttowns.com site:wikipedia.org" in google) I've come to the conclusion that Henry Chenoweth adds stuff to ghosttowns.com and adds references to it to wikipedia.org, either that or almost everything on ghosttowns.com is authored by this guy. Anyway, he knows didly squat about Kerby (including where it is - check out the map on ghosttowns.com), so I arbitrarily deleted it. Jbowler (talk) 07:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * FYI, you can simply do a linksearh: . Though like I've said elsewhere, I agree this isn't the best reference, but try assuming a bit more good faith, as I know I've used the site as a reference in many of the Oregon articles, so I know those aren't Chenoweth. I'm not sure Chenoweth has added anything to the wiki or not. But if you have a username or IP, I can report them at WikiProject Spam if need be if he is indeed spamming the link (which is different from using it as a reference). Have you tried contacting the website? Katr67 (talk) 18:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Oral history
Here's essentially what I wrote in October 2007, since removed for lack of sourcing:

"Kerby School, a rural elementary school in the former Josephine County School District, served children in the Illinois Valley and was located next to the Kerbyville Museum. Most children arrived there by school bus. Directly across Highway 199 from the school site is the site of the Cabax Mill, a thriving sawmill in the late 1950s and 1960s. In its day it was a modern facility and a significant source of income for the community. The decline of logging in the Illinois Valley in the late 1960s and 1970s doomed the mill, and, in turn, Kerby."

I was there, and that's how I remember it. I've changed "Kabax" → "Cabax", pursuant to discussion above at. Also, I originally wrote "Illinois Valley School District", but this was probably incorrect, as the area is now within the Three Rivers School District, which was formed in 1994 out of the merger of the Josephine County School District and the Applegate School District. At the time I added the text, the Three Rivers School District (Oregon) article hadn't yet been created. Maybe someone can find the references needed to put the text back into the article later, though it gets tougher each year as memories fade and eyewitnesses die. — QuicksilverT @ 21:19, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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