Talk:Kersti Kaljulaid

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I don't think the notability of a person who very likely will be the next president of a member state of the European Union needs to be proven. Still, this piece here is currently just a quick translation of the article in Estonian Wikipedia, almost all the sources are in Estonian (there is a lack of English sources but there are some, and a lot more will be seen in close days), and although I've been a Wikipedian for more than a decade, I haven't bothered to learn all the increasingly overcomplicated systems of English Wikipedia. Hence, please help to improve the article by its content as well as bringing it into line with the en.wp standards. Thank you. --Oop (talk) 10:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you Oop for creating this article! Ivo (talk) 11:45, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Some sources give 10th October as the date of her taking office. I suppose it's because 9th will be the last for THI (completing his run with exactly 10 years) and some think KK starts the next day. I'm not entirely sure how it will be legally, but I suspect 9th is correct (otherwise there'd be a very short interregnum). Have yet to find a source that'd be firmer than this. ("Uus president astub viieks aastaks ametisse 10. oktoobril.") --Oop (talk) 12:17, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * As for source, consider this: President of the Republic Work Procedure Act.—Pietadè (talk) 12:42, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Also, some sources give her husband as Georg and some as Georgi. Has to be determined by the officialness of compared sources. Then again, of course, if we're going to wait until the dust settles, some sources are going to be influenced by what's written here. --Oop (talk) 12:25, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note also that the infobox (which I already commented out twice) says she is an incumbent president, which is a BLP violation, and will remain so until October 9. It is ok to say there she is a president-elect or smth like this, but it is definitely not ok to say she is already a president.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It would be better, if we had infoboxes that would accommodate such situations more elegantly, but at the time, handicraft will have to do. But I'd like to object to your remark in the article history that we do not live in the future. Just Google the phrase. --Oop (talk) 14:34, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right, many people seem to believe they are living in the future. We can try to restore the infobox writing a correct position - would smth like president-elect work?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:01, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Please refrain from linking to president.ee
Evidently, the Bureau of Estonian President has a weird IT policy that basically initiates massive link rot and replaces all data about the previous president with the new one as soon as elections are over. Currently - just three days after the end of his term -, most of the references given in the article about the previous president Toomas Hendrik Ilves have become obsolete and have to be replaced by links to Internet Archive. To avoid reproducing similar problems, please try to find alternative sources or refer to the copies in Internet Archive. --Oop (talk) 13:03, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The Wayback Machine should be your friend here.
 * Go here: https://archive.org/web/web.php  and type in the old URL.  Get a link to that URL from a particular date past.  Use that archived source with a robust source citation.
 * Here is an example citation. This wikicode:    becomes this citation:
 * Cheers. N2e (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Kaljulaid is an Estonian politician?
Is the president of Estonia a politician? Is it expected that the article "Tarmo Soomere" will be supplemented with the phrase "an Estonian politician" soon? Similarly, the editors of the Estonian Wikipedia made Kersti Kaljulaid a politician quickly when she became Estonian president. Before that, no one in Estonia had heard of her as a politician. I'm not sure if the term "politician" is appropriate for someone who isn't really a politician. As the Estonian president has only ceremonial functions, the president in Estonia stands away from the actual politics. A figurative example of this is Kersti Kaljulaid's own phrase on TV that "I am considering that maybe I will go into politics after leaving the presidency". How could someone “go into politics” if she/he (supposedly) is already a politician. I will add a link, in Estonian: https://uudised.tv3.ee/eesti/uudis/2021/05/10/kersti-kaljulaid-ei-valista-uuesti-presidendiks-kandideerimist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.50.170.238 (talk • contribs) 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * it depends how to define politician. Besides, 2001-2004 she was a member of the political party Isamaaliit--Estopedist1 (talk) 13:05, 3 August 2021 (UTC)