Talk:Kesha/Archive 5

More album details
http://www.billboard.com/news/ke-ha-new-album-will-resurrect-rock-and-1005782752.story#/news/ke-ha-new-album-will-resurrect-rock-and-1005782752.story don't know if it will be that useful, but it was just published today. To summarize it her new album will be a rock album, and will show a new side of vulnerability that she doesnt show to often. As well as that she will start recording this month.--Jakeriederer (talk) 21:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've already added it to the album page (in my sandbox) that will be published in the near future. Thank you. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 21:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Spandex On the Distant Horizon
I think it's time that Spandex on the distant horizon should get an article. We know its coming in May of 2012, and i have the picture and 3 confirmed songs of the album. Picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyroo279/5535465183/lightbox/ Songs: Tease me, 31 seconds alone, Shots on the hood of my car. Idk how to do this myself anyway :( Kalestorm (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks like a fanmade cover. If there are no reliable source to state that it's going to exist, then it's not notable and will very likely to be deleted.— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 02:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted the page. WP:CHRYSTAL, recording doesn't start for 2 weeks. Album isnt out till May. That cover is way fake, that's not the title of the album, and she has not recorded a single song for the album she's just finishing up writing. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 03:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Aren't there more songs you didn't mention?-ActerionX (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * First, this isn't a forum. Second, all those songs are leftovers from Animal. She did not record a single song from this album until 2 weeks ago. Not a single name title is known. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 20:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

This is a false rumour, The album is not called Spandex on the Distant Horizon and the only possible song that is known to be on it is the stuff she is working with Wayne Coyne, hinted to be called "2012" and a confirmed track called Sex Toy (not confirmed to be on an album), and a rare demo known as "WooHoo" which samples Blur's Song 2.
 * Source? WP:NOR. Here's my source “The title of my next record will be Spandex on the Distant Horizon.” "2012" is a song for the Lips' album, not Kesha's, this has already been confirmed. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 22:49, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Isn't WooHoo now BTR's property? Should that be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.110.76.152 (talk) 16:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 February 2012
I would like to edit the main picture of Kesha above her biography.

TeamCreed (talk) 18:10, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. This isn't for requesting to edit to the page, it's requesting edits to be made to it. In a few days after you've had experience, you'll be autoconfirmed and then you can edit the page. - andy4789 ★ ·  (talk?   contribs?)  19:47, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Which album?
The article says: "with Animal debuting as the US's number-one album and producing two number-one singles, "Tik Tok" and "We R Who We R", and a string of top ten hits as well."

If I'm not mistaken, We R Who We R is not on Animal, but Cannibal. Right? 216.114.232.234 (talk) 11:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes it is on Cannibal, but Cannibal is a re-release of Animal so it counts as one album — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.84.59 (talk) 19:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Note for future move discussion
The Library of Congress authority record (8370440) is for "Ke$ha." --BDD (talk) 22:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Article for Die Young?
Hey! It's been six days since the release of Warrior's lead single and it has charted in Belgium (on Ultratip) Is that enough for the article to be created? -- Puisque (talk) 11:34, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * We know. :) We're trying to convince someone to undelete it and unlock it, but it doesn't seem to be getting any attention whatsoever. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 18:16, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Managed to have it unlocked. Feel free to help me edit it over here: Die Young (Kesha song). I made a list of sources that we can use here: Talk:Die Young (Ke$ha song). --Thevampireashlee (talk) 20:04, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 November 2012
change to  to remove it from Category:Pages with parser function time errors.

198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Done - with this edit. Thanks. Begoon &thinsp; talk 23:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 November 2012
Extra space after "2011-2012" in the heading "Warrior, memoir, and Deconstructed".

06:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.102.153.2 (talk • contribs)

Done with this edit. Thank you for pointing that out. Begoon &thinsp; talk 07:35, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Amen brother. 76.100.195.188 (talk) 03:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

New images
Professional photographer Becky Sullivan snapped various images of Kesha at her Today Show performance of "Die Young". I uploaded two of the best ones (in my opinion), but there are at least a dozen in all. If anyone is interested, take a look through them and pick a better one. The watermark needs to be cropped out, but since the image is cc-by-sa 2.0 we can do that. Here they are: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/becky-sullivan/sets/72157632063139488/with/8203661679/ --Thevampireashlee (talk) 21:43, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe the one of the photos with her kneeling down or with the guitar would be best for the infobox. Whatever318 (talk) 23:28, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I think the chosen "headshot" is more appropriate. The other pics are good, but the pic User:Thevampireashlee chose for the infobox is the most appropriate, in my opinion (despite my efforts to wreck it...) . Begoon &thinsp; talk  00:47, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I believe a "larger" pic is a better fit for an infobox. Whatever318 (talk) 02:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * When you say "larger", I assume you're not referring to size. If I'm following you, you mean a shot that shows her performing, with more of the body, and not just the head? There's an argument for that - but which one would you choose, bearing in mind you may need to crop the shot? Because she's performing, the facial expressions can seem a little "odd" in some of those shots, or the face obscured by hair/microphone stand in some. Can you be more specific about which shot you prefer? this one isn't bad - but the bystanders and placard may look a little odd once it's cropped, and there would need to be at least some cropping to remove the watermark. Actually, now you've made me look at them again, I think this one is another nice face shot (if cropped) - but that doesn't help if you want something showing "more"  Begoon &thinsp; talk  02:46, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think either this one or this one would be the best fit. Whatever318 (talk) 02:54, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Ha, well that first one was the one I just played with - see File:Kesha Today Show Kneeling.jpg. It could be more closely cropped to "upper body" which would lose some of the distracting background, but also lose the "pose", and would chop off her hands, which spoils it a bit. Begoon &thinsp; talk 03:02, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

In the second one, the smartphone at bottom right means you'd need to "slice" through the guitar - which might be ok, I suppose (or leave the phone in). If you don't crop out the left part of the image and focus on her a bit more, though, she'll be very small at infobox size - and if you do crop it, you cut through her arm, and lose the point of the pointing "pose". Here's a rough crop: File:Kesha Today Show Pointing.jpg Begoon &thinsp; talk  03:06, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

You could also look through the pics in this old revision of the article:. An editor added, then removed that gallery. I think he was right to remove it (per Image_use_policy) - but maybe it helps in this discussion? [disclaimer: I haven't checked the licensing of any of those pics] - Begoon &thinsp; talk  05:31, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I definitely believe both of those images are acceptable. Whatever318 (talk) 00:33, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Before replacing the current infobox image, please discuss it here. I believe, as it seems others here have agreed, that this image is best for the infobox because it is a full image of her smiling face that faces towards the text, encouraging the eye to move towards the article body. I do not think the other pictures from this shoot are superior. Especially not this one and this one because her body is either partially obscured by an object in the foreground, the angle is awkward, or her posture is awkward. Her facial expressions are also unflattering. And no offense to her, but make her look like she has a mental disorder or something. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 05:51, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Um, only one person agreed so I don't think that's consensus really, and I'm kinda surprised since I find this one to be actually a great image of her. Whatever318 (talk) 23:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 January 2013
ummm part is wrong oh wait one thing are you part of the illuminati to i dont know you see she is part of em and i want to expose her thanks....oh yeah obama is to hehehe

81.151.28.199 (talk) 17:35, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * What exactly did you want to see changed in the article? Billboard joked that Kesha was in the Illuminati because of her "Die Young" music video; otherwise, no reliable sources exist on the topic. Plus, the topic is considered pseudo-science and is therefore not worthy of a mention. However, I'm sure you would find articles about this topic at Vigilant Citizen.com. Just Google it. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:38, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Edit: Also be aware that this talk page is not a forum about Kesha. Subjects addressed here should only relate to the content or future content of the article. :) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:40, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Yoda? Is that you?
"Will first episode air in April 2013 on MTV." -> "First episode will air ..." -- 188.105.118.35 (talk) 08:08, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request
In the first paragraph the word "yodeling" includes three L's, and it should have one. It is a redlink.

- Geordi La Forge (talk) 22:59, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

LGBT categories
I've removed this article from the categories Bisexual musicians, Bisexual women, LGBT musicians from the United States, and LGBT rappers as Kesha's sexuality is rather ambiguous. There is in fact no mention of it in the body of the article nor has there been adequate discussion on the talk page (besides a small conversation back in 2010). In 2013, she said "I don't love just men. I love people. It's not about a gender" ; this is not self-identification as LGBT, and in 2010 she even said "I wouldn't say I’m gay or straight -– I don’t like labeling things anyway", which is all the more reason to exclude her from these categories. Headlines proclaiming Kesha as bisexual are just the product of a little sensationalism by the authors, because if you read them you'll find indefinite quotes such as the ones I just posted.

I do however think the article should still remain within the WikiProject LGBT studies scope as she has a recognizable presence in regards to LGBT topics. Scarce2 (talk) 00:08, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed on all points. Percxyz (Call me Percy,  it's easier) 00:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * As a regular contributor to this article, I consent to this removal. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 00:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 July 2013
In the Awards section for Kesha it shows that she WON the Best Song in the World Music Awards with "Die Young". She hasn't won this award (yet). Could someone replace the WON with NOMINATED. Please and Thank You

76.30.172.233 (talk) 09:06, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done switched to "pending". Thanks, Nici  Vampire  Heart  14:45, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Leaked Nude Pictures
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/star-wars-lady-gaga-ke-ha-and-the-german-hacker-heist-a-741667-3.html

Previously it made sense to not include information on them because there were no direct quotes from her that even acknowledged their existence, but she has since talked about the pictures in her own documentary, should they be mentioned?

155.69.2.11 (talk) 09:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think mentioning this is neutral or encyclopedic for a wiki article, unlike someone who's sex scandal is extremely public and common knowledge like Kim Kardashian or Bill Clinton. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Agree with . It's WP:UNDUE in the article, really - more suitable for the gossip rags than an encyclopedia - unless it became a major issue discussed by a large number of reliable and weighty sources, then it might be worth consideration, but for now, meh... Begoon &thinsp; talk  16:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Jewelry line
Ke$ha Released a jewelry line last week that was very successful, partnered with charles albert. if someone could add that to her page it would be great! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.46.169 (talk) 23:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


 * She released it last week... and it was really successful... Hmmm... Success in a week - if only... I could be a billionaire by last Wednesday...
 * Seriously though, I'm sure she has ways of publicising her jewellery lines that don't need us to help. If it became a major part of her business career, and we had lots of sources commenting on it, then, sure, it should be mentioned, but we don't need to include it in an encyclopedia article on the performer just because it happened. You might see WP:NOTNEWS and WP:PROMO too. Begoon &thinsp; talk  17:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Missing EP
In the page it has Ke$has Albums (Animal, and Warrior) but does not have her EP Cannibal. If someone could add that to the page it would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.46.169 (talk) 01:18, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That's just a short section that links to Kesha discography, and it links just her full albums for convenience.
 * There's a full article: Cannibal (EP) about the EP, and that's even classified as a Wikipedia Good Article, and it's linked from Kesha discography.
 * I think that's probably fine as it is. If more regular editors of the article think it's worth adding a specific link to the EP, then fine, but for me it's pretty well covered, it might seem a bit unwieldy and duplicative if we linked to all singles/EPs too, when the already linked discography article does just that. Begoon &thinsp; talk  17:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request for summary
I'm not sure what the correct way to fix this is, but the second paragraph of the summary at the top of the page says, "Kesha primarily draws inspiration from music of the 1980s; Madonna, Queen, and Beck have been cited as instrumental to her artistry." However, Beck is clearly a 90's artist -- his first major release, Mellow Gold was in 1993 and most of his big albums are from the late 1990s and earlier 2000's. I'm not entirely sure what should be done with the quote, though.76.14.86.195 (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2013 (UTC) Changing the semi-colon to a full stop would be, of course, an obvious 'cop-out' 'band-aid' which makes the second statement less stridently connected to the first, but I'd like to do better than that. Begoon &thinsp; talk 19:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's a good point. Structurally, that could do with fixing somehow. I don't have a solution straight off the top of my head that isn't clumsy, but since there's been no reply to this in a while I guess a little more time won't hurt. Perhaps someone else can think of a clever, erudite way to rephrase it before my slow old brain clunks around to it? I'll hope to think of something soon if no other editor does.

An ordained minister of what?
The article states ordained minister, having been ordained online. But doesn't state what religion, the link links to Christian religion, the source article doesn't explain. Some web sources say Satanism 81.178.162.255 (talk) 11:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Do they, indeed? Which WP:RS (reliable sources) are you referring to? You seem to have forgotten to link to them... Begoon &thinsp; talk  17:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I was Just asking a question, or for some vagaries to be cleared up, I wasn't claiming to have reliable sources, hence "Some web sources" Rather then try and criticise my input just for asking a question, is it possible to have clarification on this matter? Or are childish responses the rule here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.172.7 (talk) 10:40, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Ke$ha?
I need about 6-12 Wikipedians to get back to me because Kesha already has 5 articles here. Should we do it? Also, I think we should create a List of Awards and Nominations Received by Kesha, instead of just leaving it as a sub-articleon her page ...

SayaamRulz (talk) 21:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Timber and no Lip$ha
Hey just hoping someone could add that she was featured on the Pitbull track "Timber" and that the album Lip$ha will no longer be made, confirmed by Wayne Coyne on his twitter. Also she released a jewelry line that was pretty successful. If someone could remove the Lip$ha page,add the Pitbull part, and the jewelry information that would be great. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.46.169 (talk) 00:54, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

NEW Pic
I think there should be a newer pic of kesha for the page picture. This one could be good, http://i1.cdnds.net/13/21/618x491/showbiz-kesha.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.188.116 (talk) 17:12, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Is it free? Are you sure? If so, then, yeah, sure go for it ... :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.13.93 (talk) 21:12, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No it is not free and cannot be used. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 08:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request - September 2013
If someone would add her back to the category "Category:LGBT rappers", that would be great. Also, she should be added to the categories "Category:LGBT Christians" and "Category:American Christians". 71.191.95.5 (talk) 17:27, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Still waiting on any/all of these requests.

I actually think the statement about her as "openly bisexual" should be removed since there appear to be a few issues with it. The only source I have for this is a statement in Seventeen magazine where she responded to a question about her sexuality with “I love people. It’s not about a gender. It’s just about the spirit that exudes from that other person you’re with.” There is also a tabloid story about her "dirty dancing" with a girl at a gay bar and a very ambiguous quote where she said "I'm looking for a boyfriend or girlfriend" while performing at an LGBT concert (any of these can be Googled and run down). To the contrary, there is a wealth of evidence that she predominantly (as far as I can tell exclusively) dates men, and speaks openly and descriptively about her hetero-sexual orientation and romantic history in interviews and song lyrics. In the spirit of her desire not to label people and the lack of (in my opinion) credible evidence here, shall we avoid applying this "label" to her? And perhaps, if deemed necessary, replace this with a more restrained interpretation of her response in the Seventeen magazine interview.

I see it as a disservice to LGBT activism (and feminism) that its most vocal supporters need to be labeled as "bisexual," especially in Kesha's case where the sources identifying her as such come of as sloppy and/or opportunistic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.129.194 (talk) 17:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit request
Please correct the spelling Pheonix -> Phoenix in the reference in the Personal life section. Thanks. 78.43.79.189 (talk) 01:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Fixed the reference. Thank you for pointing this out. -- Neil N  talk to me  01:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2014
In Ke$ha's background information box and under her list of instruments, 'theremin' is incorrectly spelt as 'theramin'.

90.198.114.28 (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. Thanks,  Little Mountain  5  23:26, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Kesha's manager from 2006-____ was David Sonenberg
David Sonenberg of DAS Communications was pop singer Kesha's manager. He sued her in 2010 for $14 million. Kesha counter-sued Sonenberg, saying he is an illegal (unlicensed) talent agent. They later settled their lawsuits. After Kesha was admitted to a rehab in January 2014, her mother Rosemary "Pebe" Sebert publicly accused Sonenberg of strongly encouraging Kesha to engage in bulimic behavior. 207.239.120.10 (talk) 04:12, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

David Sonenberg
In an interview with People Magazine, Kesha's mother Rosemary said that Kesha's former manager David Sonenberg of DAS Communications yelled at Kesha to throw up and do drugs. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20777153,00.html

http://popcrush.com/kesha-mom-bullied-almost-killed-daughter/

208.105.78.10 (talk) 12:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Kesha is Polish
kesha is a polish american actress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_American her mather is form poland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andzej7 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Ke$ha wasn't born in Poland. Therefore,she is American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erobinson55 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Lead image
I have to argue, File:Ke$ha Today Show 2012.jpg has much higher quality, with little to know obstructions and Kesha is much more identifiable than the present lead image. What do you guys think?-- Gourami Watcher  (Gulp) 13:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It was present for a certain time I believe, and it definitely looks good. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 04:53, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * So shouldn't it be reverted then? KeDollarsignHa (talk) 19:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Name
formerly stylized as Ke$ha

Does this mean what is stated, that she used to by stylised as "Ke$ha", or was it intended to say that she is "formally stylised as Ke$ha" (that is, that she is officially stylised in that form)? Skinsmoke (talk) 20:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * "Formerly." She used the dollar sign until rehab and no longer uses it. —Gendralman (talk) 23:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Updates and Needed Fixes
It should be noted properly that Kesha will be joining the panel of Rising Star (as an "expert", not a judge as their influences will not affect the show's outcome, is dating Brad Ashenfelter and is reportedly working with Zedd (there are plenty of online sources). Kesha's promo image for Rising Star says that she has now sold 59 million records worldwide http://www.mtv.com/news/1835837/kesha-new-logo-rising-star/ . Also, the image for this article, while is a change, isn't as suitable as a lead image as the one prior to this as they were from the EXACT same time and place, and is a much clearer, nicer face-shot. A new, free image is bound to come up soon anyway, so until then, we should revert to that one. 81.107.103.92 (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Infobox change
I'm not so sure that I agree with this edit by Chasewc91. Kesha is pretty much a muscial artist and nothing else: any acting and talent show roles she's held are trivial in comparison to her musical career. Infobox musical artist seems like the most appropriate infobox for this article. Acalamari 08:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The infobox should cover everything, including minor things. However, the genre "synthpop" is too narrow, other genres should also be included, especially pop, dances and electronica — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.103.92 (talk) 18:09, 7 June 2014

Sorry for just now replying here Acalamari; I didn't see this discussion. I think that since the musical artist infobox can be added as a module to the main person infobox that it's unnecessary to only include a more restrictive infobox that provides less info. That's how I feel about any musical solo artist, regardless of how notable for what they are outside of music. The additional listings in the person infobox are also helpful; for instance, we can link to her mother who is notable, and more easily distinguish that she's from Nashville with a "home town" field instead of a more dubious "origin" one.

And 81.107.103.92, synthpop is currently the only musical genre that is cited for Kesha in the body of the article. If you know of any sources that describe her as a dance or electronica artist (though I doubt you will find any for the latter as the term generally doesn't apply to dance-pop singers), feel free to list them here and they can be added to the article/infobox. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:01, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2014
Please change German to Polish in the line below. The article that is a reference for this line is in Polish, and Kesha says that she is part Polish and that her great grandmother lived in Poland while under Russia rule. No mention of German. Other articles have mentioned her father maybe of German descent.

Her mother is of half German and half Hungarian descent (with her Hungarian side from Szentes).

Nanusia0973


 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: I've added a sentence saying that she is of Polish descent, and placed a tag after the sentence saying that her mother is half German, half Hungarian. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:25, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Rapper ?
LOL What a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.188.115.30 (talk) 03:43, 31 July 2014 (UTC)