Talk:Kesha/Archive 6

Excessive auto-tune?
Excessive auto-tune is not really an expression used by audio engineers. It is quite misleading to categorize the application of pitch tuning on some of her vocals as excessive, or to conclude that auto-tune software is being used in her music. A more technical way to describe this effect would be hard-tuning, hard vocal tuning or hard pitch tuning; that is to say that " pitch or vocal tuning describes the effect being applied, and hard describes the application of the effect. Auto-tune is one of of many pitch-correction software programs that exist which can be used to produce a hard-tuning effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.101.35 (talk) 03:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC) Someone really needs to change the excessive auto-tune sentence. It's inflamitory and its not even a technical expression. Excessive auto-tune is a subjective observation and it is not informational or factual.The correct expression would be hard-tuning, the common jargon used by audio engineers to describe this vocal effect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.220.26 (talk) 13:31, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Birth date needs cited
Would someone please add this RS cite or a different one: http://www.allmusic.com/artist/keha-mn0000080358/biography | title= Artist Biography [Ke$ha] | first=Andy | second = Kellman | publisher=AllMusic.com --209.122.114.237 (talk) 21:24, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Lead image
The new lead image is recent, however, it is at an awkward pose. I personally believe it should be changed to one of the older ones. Anyone agree?-- Gourami Watcher pride 03:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree. I'm always cracking up whenever I see it. ooooppps zlouiemark [ T | C ] 03:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Info Box
Edited the info box to correct her name from Ke$ha to Kesha to match the rest of the article and bring some of the formatting in line 68.110.112.120 (talk) 20:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

My edit was undone by Acalamari for some reason with no justification on this page. Interpuncts are used to space between occupations on other artists' pages, I am not sure why it is being changed to commas here. Furthermore, as the only activism that is currently sourced on the page is animal rights activism (she is a Humane Society Global Ambassador) that would be the only one approriate to list under occupation. Bitexualthespian (talk) 07:25, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2015
Category:American Christians

98.229.208.214 (talk) 23:52, 16 January 2015 (UTC)


 * ❌ - Please make your edit request in a "change X to Y" format. IPadPerson (talk) 00:23, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Kesha has never publicly claimed to be Christian. The article makes no mention of her religion. Google searches for "what's Kesha's religion" and "is Kesha a Christian" turn up no mention of the Christianity you allege. The top hit only says "Kesha has never claimed a religion but she has repeatedly expressed a belief in the Hindu/Buddhist concept of Karma." --209.197.144.72 (talk) 08:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2015
Add Category:American Christians to Kesha's categories, because it mentions she's a Christian (ordained), and of course she's American.

98.229.208.214 (talk) 03:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —  15:17, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Kesha has never publicly claimed to be Christian. The article makes no mention of her religion. Google searches for "what's Kesha's religion" and "is Kesha a Christian" turn up no mention of the Christianity you allege. The top hit only says "Kesha has never claimed a religion but she has repeatedly expressed a belief in the Hindu/Buddhist concept of Karma." --209.197.144.72 (talk) 08:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2016
Please fix the spelling of February in the following sentence:

"It is reported that Taylor Swift donated $250,000 to Kesha on 22nd of Febraury, 2016 when the court ruled against her."

Corrupt Individual (talk) 12:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Typo fixed. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:51, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

minor question
In the lede, it says she has been nominated for over 60 awards and has won over 13. I'm fine with the nominated for over 60, since 60 is a round number. But why "over 13"? 13 is a specific number. If the number is known, bhy not just say 13, or 15, or whatever it is? It sounds somewhat unencyclopedic. Even "over a dozen" would sound better. Jbower47 (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2017
Add Kesha's signature to her article: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kesha_signature.png 91.234.35.216 (talk) 10:49, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Edit Request
Under the Section "Early Life" in the paragraph on high school, add that Kesha was part of the International Baccalaureate program Rustydowen (talk) 22:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)Dusty

Headliner
"A headliner is the main act in a music, theatre, or comedy performance. Generally, the headliner is the final act in a performance, preceded by the opening act(s)." The headliner is about who has the most prestige to draw people to the show where there will be multiple performances, not that they have to be onstage for the entirety of the show. The analogy is to a headline in a news article that draws you into reading the entire article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Influences
The list of influences was ridiculously long. That many artists without any context does nothing to help a reader understand the artist. Significant artists could be re-addeed if done in a more readable fashion. Text dumped here for posterity. Wickedjacob (talk) 03:28, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

She has additionally cited Beck, Queen, David Bowie, Madonna, The Killers, Gwen Stefani, The Black Eyed Peas, Elton John, Aaron Neville, Prince, Bob Dylan, The Damned, The Velvet Underground, M.I.A., The Rolling Stones, A Flock of Seagulls, Kraftwerk, Daniel Johnson, Talking Heads, Donovan, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Avenue A, The Go! Team, Mika, Sonic Youth, Willie Nelson, Eagles of Death Metal, The Black Keys, Daft Punk, Electric Six, Teenager, Tonite Only, Mirwais, Afrika Bambaata, Peaches, Rock&Roll, Richard X, Cornelius, ESG, The 6ths, Akron Family, Al Green, Andrew Bird, Anthrax, Aphex Twin, Archers of Loaf, Ataxia, Bad Finger, Belle & Sebastian, Ben Lee, Beulah, Big Star, Black Flag, The Blow, Boards of Canada, Brian Eno, Brian Wilson, Bright Eyes, Built to Spill, Butthole Surfers, The Cardigans, The Carpenters, Casiotone for the Painfully Alone, The Clash, The Dandy Warhols, The Dead Milkmen, Devandra Banhart, The Dresden Dolls, The Eels, Elvis Costello, Eric's Trip, The Fall, The Features, Fischerspooner, Frank Black, Frank Sinatra, Franz Ferdinand, Futureheads, Gary Glitter, Generation X, Ghostface Killah, Gogol Bordello, Gorillaz, Guided by Voices, Her Space Holiday, Human Television, Islands, The Jackson 5, Jawbreaker, Jenny Lewis, Jimmy O'Rourke, Joan Jett, Joe Jack Talcum, John Frusciante, Johnny Thunders, Kimya Dawson, The Kinks, LCD Soundsystem, Le Tigre, The Lemonheads, Leonard Cohen, The Little Ones, Lou Barlow, Love, The Lovely Feathers, Marshall Crenshaw, Matisyahu, Matmos, Miles Davis, Minor Threat, Modest Mouse, Mos Def, Mott the Hoople, The Mountain Goats, Moving Units, My darling YOU!, Neil Diamond, Neil Young, Neko Case, Neutral Milk Hotel, Oh No Oh My, Otis Redding, The Pastels, Pere Ubu, Peter Bjorn and John, The Pink Spiders, the Pixies, PJ Harvey, The Postal Service, Public Enemy, Pulp, R.E.M., R. L. Burnside, Radiohead, The Raincoats, Rancid, The Rapture, The Rascals, Ratatat, The Raveonettes, Regina Spektor, The Replacements, Roky Erickson, Ryan Adams, Screeching Weasel, The Shins, The Small Faces, The Smiths, the Smoking Popes, Sparklehorse, Spinto Band, Squarepusher, Stellastarr, Stiff Little Fingers, The Stranglers, The Streets, The Strokes, Surfjan Stevens, The Sundays, Sun Ra, T. Rex, Ted Leo and the Pharmacists, Television, Tilly and the Wall, They Might Be Giants, Tom Jones, Tracy + the Plastics, Troubled Hubble, TV on the Radio, U2, The Unicorns, The Vaselines, The Ventures, Violent Femmes, The Walkmen, Wilco, Wire, X, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Yo La Tengo, The Zombies and the graffiti artist Banksy as influences.

Dinosaur lyrics have Nick Cage?
Are those lyrics correct? I've listened to this song multiple times and can't find a reference to Nicholas Cage... is this a bad edit on Kesha's page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:4000:200:2:3CD3:71EB:603C:A250 (talk) 19:20, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

jerry seinfeld not hugging
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/jerry-seinfeld-hilariously-says-no-thanks-hug-kesha-200410254.html

Majinsnake (talk) 23:22, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Residence: "New York City, New York"
Is there any evidence supporting this claim in the infobox? It does not appear in the body of the article and there are no published sources confirming that she resides in New York; several articles do mention her staying in hotels there during her trial, but the only residences I can find corroboration of were in Nashville and in California; unless there is evidence that she actually lives in New York City, this should be removed. I removed it once because it's unsourced but someone added it again. --Drown Soda (talk) 19:53, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

main page photo
can somebody change the image to something current? DopeHat (November 4, 2017 8:08 PM EST)

Signature
An editor added File:Kesha signature.png and reverted my removal. Aside from the fact that I don't really see what it adds to the article, the uploader of the 2013 file says "own work" but there is no indication of a source from which this drawing was derived to demonstrate that this is an authentic reproduction of Kesha's signature. Thoughts? -- Begoon 06:03, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Is it correct that the signature still contains a dollar sign when the name stylicization no longer does? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0C:5BC0:40:10C0:BD67:ADAB:5520:4A33 (talk) 16:23, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Kesha for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Kesha is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kesha until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 06:32, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Four-octave range!
Hello! Kesha’s recorded range spans from B♭2 (“Praying”) to C7 in a June 14 Instagram post (https://www.instagram.com/p/Byso03jljil/?igshid=a671gb95sw1b). Request to move her to the according category? —CPGACoast (talk) 14:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Narrative Issue
There seems to be a bit of a narrative issue with the "early life" section. One paragraph says that she was accepted into Barnard College but dropped out after three months. The very next paragraph contains a claim that she dropped out of high school and earned her GED.

There's no way both of those things can be true, and I'm unfamiliar with policies of this nature. Is there a protocol for this?

Amynewyork4248 (talk) 02:50, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Top photo is Lizzo, not Kesha
Someone has uploaded the wrong photo; it should be taken down or replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.154.4.153 (talk) 20:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s just vandalism. I’ve reverted it but if you see it there again, feel free to revert it yourself. Neiltonks (talk) 21:15, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC
Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:10, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Kesha v. Dr Luke
I think we should add the March 2017 & Feb 2020 judgements to the case details since they are important for a complete view of the whole saga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.5.47.223 (talk) 14:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2021
The link http://muzyka.wp.pl/interviewId,557100,page,2,title,Potrafie-imprezowac-naprawde-mocno-rozmowa-z-Kesha,wywiad.html?ticaid=1a22b  is now dead. Please add the following Web Archive copy to the reference: |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20111007055416/http://muzyka.wp.pl/interviewId,557100,page,2,title,Potrafie-imprezowac-naprawde-mocno-rozmowa-z-Kesha,wywiad.html?ticaid=1d27f |archive-date=2011-10-07

Thank you. 84.69.182.103 (talk) 14:09, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. &#8209;&#8209;Volteer1 (talk) 19:09, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2021
Update the court case in the lead please. it was years ago, it was dismissed, why is it still listed as ongoing and with all the claims that were dismissed in 2014?

We also have in the lead that she was an immediate success that quotes records released over a 10 year period! Is that instant? Needs changing as doesnt make sense. And that once, many many years ago she has a single on tiktok that sold well, but that has now been exceeded by literally 100s of others since then, also needs updating. And then we have how many sales she has had to date, in 2013. Again needs updating. Are ringtones now classed as sales as the lead claims?

She is also not an actress, needs changing - A cameo as yourself, and playing yourself in documentary's does not make her an actress? Also I can find mention of a few seconds of "rap" in just one of her songs. So basically not a rapper. Needs changing please2A00:23C4:220:CF01:1184:75C3:E680:1566 (talk) 15:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC) 2A00:23C4:220:CF01:1184:75C3:E680:1566 (talk) 15:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Good source - https://www.vulture.com/article/timeline-keshas-legal-fight-against-dr-luke.html

Kesha actually DROPPED her case herself many years ago. Also why no mention of all the cases filed against Kesha and her family? This really needs updating asap — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:220:CF01:1184:75C3:E680:1566 (talk) 15:13, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Also the fact that Kesha made false claims of the rape of Katy Perry, denied by the singer herself and found to be lies in court is again ignored. She was found to have lied and made to pay fees etc, surely this should be in the article? Or is OK to make false rape claims against men?2A00:23C4:220:CF01:1184:75C3:E680:1566 (talk) 15:19, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. The source you linked specifically says the [...] ongoing litigation. Please suggest changes in a change X to Y format with reliable sources that support your changes. See also WP:NPOV. — LauritzT (talk) 10:52, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Kesha is pansexual, but she's listen in bisexual categories
Kesha is openly pansexual, and this is noted in her wiki page under the first sentence of the Personal Life section, but she's listed in the 'Bisexual musicians' and 'Bisexual women' categories, despite the existence of the 'Pansexual musicians' and 'Pansexual women' categories — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thecloudking (talk • contribs) 05:14, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Kesha self-identifies as bisexual. Please see the following sources: https://www.attitude.co.uk/article/exclusive-kesha-on-bisexuality-and-being-able-to-run-free-in-her-relationship-1/22208/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kesha-bisexual-pop-star-doesnt-love-just-men_n_2396180 Possibleuseful (talk) 13:22, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Sexuality
As of June 2022, listing Kesha as bisexual seems to be inaccurate, judging by this quote from her recent post: “I’m not gay. I’m not straight. I don’t know what I am. I love people.” The key sentence there is the third one; she did not specifically label herself with the term bisexual, she said she is unsure of what she is. Thus, I believe any categories relating to bisexuality should be removed, but general LGBT categories should be kept. I wanted to bring this up instead of just making changes to avoid a possible edit war. Redandsymmetry (talk) 00:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Edit: I forgot to list the source Here is her post. Redandsymmetry (talk) 00:04, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Filmography
Discovery+ : “Conjuring Kesha” 2022. 152.86.161.238 (talk) 01:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Fake lyrics added to article with malicious intent to smear a third party
In the section "artistry" the quoted lyrics from the song "Dinosaur" are fake and probably libelous. They take the following words from an interview with Sebert which is about the incident which inspired the song (not from the song itself) and with clearly malicious intent substitute a well-known actor's name for part of her statement:
 * "There's a song called 'Dinosaur' about this old guy who was hitting on me, and his toupee was kind of falling off, and I was like, 'Oh my God, you're so old, you're prehistoric, you're like a dinosaur. D-I-N-O-S-A-you are a dinosaur.'" 

Also, the source provided (a BBC review of Animal) does not quote lyrics from the song nor does it support any other statement in that section of the article - including about the song's formula. The source for the original quote from Sebert about the original incident is here:
 * https://archive.vn/20121216102609/http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/14639/81133

Someone with editing rights needs to remove the offending line. 82.21.19.72 (talk) 21:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ - The offending content has been removed. As far as your additional personal commentary regarding Wikipedia and editing rights, it has been removed also because it did not help to improve the article itself. - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:11, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2023
I noticed that when you refer to the song "TiK ToK", the K is lowercase. This is inaccurate to how its spelled by Kesha's brand. Beelectricity (talk) 07:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. And also read MOS:SENTENCECASE and MOS:TMRULES.  —  Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  13:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Edit request
Please add Kesha (disambiguation) to the hatnote:

add

-- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 09:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ M.Bitton (talk) 12:04, 17 August 2023 (UTC)