Talk:Ketab Sara Co.

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Ketab Sara Co. is a major Iranian publishing house, keeping a standard of quality and maintaining a substantial cultural activity in a peculiar context. US and European publishing houses of comparable local importance (e.g., Random House, John Wiley, Gallimard) have Wikipedia articles. Further indications of Ketab Sara's notability may be supplemented in the near future.

Brotons —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brotons (talk • contribs) 01:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Following up
Addressed to Alan Leifting (who is proposing the article's deletion)

If Ketab Sara, doing an outstanding job under duress, does not qualify as notable, I am afraid no Iranian publisher would do better. Wikipedia should not take an ethnocentric view of notability--we do not want Wikipedia to include article about publishers based only in developed countries. Note that Amirkabir (still active, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amirkabir_(publisher)) and Caravan (no more active) are the only Iranian publishers that have Wiki articles.

Your suggestions are most welcome to find a solution.

Best, Jean-Charles Brotons

Eight references added, Ketab Sara Co. meets Wikipedia notability criteria for organisations and corp. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP)

1. Added references indicate substantial international, and national news media coverage. These were selected out of a file of about sixty news media references. More references will be added if needed, yet according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP "Notability requires only that ... necessary sources exist, not that the sources have already been named in the article."

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP points out, and asks for avoiding, the kind of bias that has led Alan Liefting to propose deletion. Indeed, it says: "Large organizations are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller organizations can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations."

3. Contrary to Alan Liefting's reactions to my comments on his talk page, Ketab Sara Co.'s cultural role in the Iranian context is a factor in evaluating its notability. Indeed, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP: "When evaluating the notability of organizations, please consider whether it has had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education."

Brotons (talk) 01:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)