Talk:Kevin J. Tracey

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"Kaz Suzuki" has recently added templates suggesting that this article contains puffery, peacock terms, is an advertisement, and has been constructed by someone with a close affiliation to the subject. These accusations have gone unsubstantiated, and are patently false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinyfoot (talk • contribs) 02:18, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Jamie Talan. I just wanted to check and see if you've read the WP:Conflict of interest guidelines here. Thanks.Could User:Jamietalan be your account as well? Just wondering.Kaz Suzuki (talk) 13:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Kaz Suzuki - there are no indications in the recent history of this article that "Jamie Talan" or "Jamietalan" made revisions to this page. Again, your flags to this article remain unsubstantiated, and will be removed as vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinyfoot (talk • contribs) 23:03, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

False information
Hello. I found information on this page that is incorrect. It states, "He is a professor and head of the Herman and Susan Merinoff Center for Patient Oriented Research at the Feinstein." This information is not true, he is not professor or head of this center. I don't see a citation for the sentence so I am unable to see where it was found. Dr. Tracey is professor and director of the Center for Biomedical Science at The Feinstein Institute for Medical Research. (AmberGrape80 (talk) 16:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC))

Notability
Why is this guy notable? Not a prof at a major uni, so fails WP:PROF. The rest is self-published and NOT a reliable secondary source. I seriously doubt this would pass AfD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaz Suzuki (talk • contribs) 14:22, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Somebody with an honorary doctorate from Karolinska will certainly pass AfD. But feel free to take it there. Meanwhile, I will keep removing the tags that you and some accounts with similar intentions keep adding: the article has not been edited for a long time by any of the accounts that you accuse of a COI, does not contain any peacock terms that I can see, and is written in a neutral way. If you have any concerns, voice them on the talk page here and we can discuss them. Keep edit warring over those tags and putting ridiculous warnings on my talk page and we'll go to WP:ANI or WP:BLPN. --Randykitty (talk) 08:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I have not put any ridiculous warnings or anything else on your talk page, nor have I engaged in an edit war. I simply disagree with you, and question whether you have a conflict of interest (please see WP:COI). I strongly urge you to stop your pattern of personal attacks and threats to get your way. This is simply not how Wikipedia works. I think that you can do a lot of good for Wiki, but if you continue in this line of behavior I think you will probably be blocked from editing. Please think carefully before you do this again. Thank you. Kaz Suzuki (talk) 14:43, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

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Vagus nerve
The vagus nerve plays an important role in the regulation of organ function, including reflex pathways that regulate immunity and inflammation.

I suggest the sentence above goes after the following sentence: Tracey has proposed a mechanism for neural control of TNF and HMGB1 to maintain immunological homeostasis, which he called the "inflammatory reflex".[9][10] (AmberGrape80 (talk) 17:39, 2 November 2018 (UTC))
 * Thanks for posting a proposal. In Wikipedia, we summarize what independent sources say; the content you are proposing is not summarizing the source. Also, please see your talk page. Jytdog (talk) 17:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

OK, thank you for the insight. I added a sentence that summarizes the source below. Can this be posted? The vagus nerve plays an important role in the regulation of organ function, including reflex pathways that regulate immunity and inflammation. In 2018, Dr. Tracey and colleagues published in Bioelectronic Medicine that they standardized an experimental protocol to record signals transmitted in the vagus nerve.

I suggest the sentence above goes after the following sentence: Tracey has proposed a mechanism for neural control of TNF and HMGB1 to maintain immunological homeostasis, which he called the "inflammatory reflex".[9][10] (AmberGrape80 (talk) 18:19, 2 November 2018 (UTC))

Study in Bioelectronic Medicine
The vagus nerve plays an important role in the regulation of organ function, including reflex pathways that regulate immunity and inflammation. In 2018, Dr. Tracey and colleagues published in Bioelectronic Medicine that they standardized an experimental protocol to record signals transmitted in the vagus nerve. [1]

I suggest the sentence above goes after the following sentence: Tracey has proposed a mechanism for neural control of TNF and HMGB1 to maintain immunological homeostasis, which he called the "inflammatory reflex".[9][10] (AmberGrape80 (talk) 18:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC))

Reply 03-NOV-2018

 * The rationale for making these changes has not been included in this edit request. Please include your rationale for requesting these changes. Spintendo   14:45, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I would like to add this text to include factual information regarding Dr. Tracey and his work with the vagus nerve. (AmberGrape80 (talk) 20:22, 5 November 2018 (UTC))
 * reply 1: We indent using the colon : -- you are using a semicolon ; and as you can see the Wikipedia software makes the comment bold after a semicolon, which is not what you want. Jytdog (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * reply 2 - I get it that you want to add a citation to his most recent paper. We don't care about his most recent paper, or his last one or the one before that. What we care about, is what of enduring, encyclopedic interest.  His broad research program.  Please base content about that from independent sources (in others, papers NOT written by him). Jytdog (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Kevin’s papers are published in the most esteemed peer reviewed medical journals. They are not simply his personal papers. They have to pass a rigorous analysis before they are even considered for publication. For this reason, they have a higher value that anything else, including news stories. Researchers are known by their scientific papers as they share factual information with the scientific community. With this in mind, I think the following content would be a valuable addition to Dr. Tracey's page. It is a verifiable statement free from bias.

"The vagus nerve plays an important role in the regulation of organ function, including reflex pathways that regulate immunity and inflammation. In 2018, Dr. Tracey and colleagues published in Bioelectronic Medicine that they standardized an experimental protocol to record signals transmitted in the vagus nerve.

Silverman, Harold A.; Stiegler, Andrew; Tsaava, Téa; Newman, Justin; Steinberg, Benjamin E.; Battinelli Masi, Emily; Sergio Robbiati, Chad Bouton, Patricio T. Huerta, Sangeeta S. ChavanEmail author and Kevin J. Tracey (March 15, 2018). "Standardization of methods to record Vagus nerve activity in mice." Bioelectronic Medicine (Springer Nature).

I suggest the sentence above goes after the following sentence: Tracey has proposed a mechanism for neural control of TNF and HMGB1 to maintain immunological homeostasis, which he called the "inflammatory reflex". (AmberGrape80 (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2018 (UTC))


 * Following up about the submission above. Thank you in advance for your insight! (AmberGrape80 (talk) 20:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC))
 * What do you not understand, about the answers I already gave? Jytdog (talk) 20:20, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I understand your previous answer but I am finding it contradictory to what's on other Wikipedia profile pages. Past researchers, like Albert Einstein, have multiple papers on their pages written by them (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein) and Eric Topol, an esteemed cardiologist and geneticist also has multiple papers written by him on his page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Topol). Both past and present researchers have multiple papers written by them as sources. Would you be able to explain why Dr. Tracey cannot have papers on his? They are very valuable resources in the research community. Thank you in advance for your explanation, I'm just trying to have a better understanding of Wikipedia protocol as I thought it was equivalent for all pages. (AmberGrape80 (talk) 14:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC))
 * There is lots of bad content in Wikipedia (if you understand how Wikipedia works you will not be surprised that quality is uneven). Pointing to bad content in order to justify adding more bad content, is a bad argument. Jytdog (talk) 15:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying, Albert Einstein and Eric Topol have bad content on their pages? (AmberGrape80 (talk) 16:05, 12 November 2018 (UTC))
 * Yes the Topol page is horrible and I will fix it eventually; thanks for calling my attention to it. The cleveland clinic (similar to Northwell) has had a ton of people coming here to market itself and its faculty.  This activity has done great harm to the integrity of the encyclopedia. Please actually read WP:PROMO -- especially the last bullet there, and think about what you are doing and why you came to WP in light of the mission of Wikipedia -- which is to provide free information (neutral and independently sourced as much as possible) to people so that they can learn, through an open platform in which anybody can participate. It is a beautiful idea, that far, far too many people and organizations abuse.  Jytdog (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this information. Are other papers that reference Dr. Tracey's papers a credible source? (AmberGrape80 (talk) 17:09, 12 November 2018 (UTC))
 * Not if it is just a citation. What we do is summarize sources here - the source needs to actually discuss Tracey's work or else there is nothing to summarize. I have asked you to read user:Jytdog/How   several times and you very clearly have not. It explains what we do here, and why we do it that way, very clearly. Jytdog (talk) 17:16, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * "The vagus nerve is a tract of fibers that runs down the neck from the brainstem to several major organs, including the heart and gut."
 * Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-zapping-the-vagus-nerve-jump-start-immunity/
 * I suggest the sentence above goes after the following sentence: Tracey has proposed a mechanism for neural control of TNF and HMGB1 to maintain immunological homeostasis, which he called the "inflammatory reflex". (AmberGrape80 (talk) 19:31, 26 November 2018 (UTC))
 * That is not about him, and we don't need to explain that in this article. That is what wikilinks are for. Jytdog (talk) 20:08, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * His work led him to hypothesize that stimulating the vagus nerve with electricity would alleviate harmful inflammation.
 * Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/magazine/can-the-nervous-system-be-hacked.html
 * I suggest the sentence above goes after the following sentence: Further research led Tracey to study the role of the vagus nerve in controlling the immune system. (AmberGrape80 (talk) 15:45, 30 November 2018 (UTC))
 * I know this is a busy time of year, but would you be able to review the above request? Thank you for your guidance in this process. (AmberGrape80 (talk) 14:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC))