Talk:Kew Gardens station (LIRR)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Bob1960evens (talk · contribs) 09:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I will review. I will work through the article, making notes as I go, and return to the lead at the end. Can I suggest that you mark any issues fixed with comments or maybe the ✅ template. I am not in favour of using strikethrough, as it makes the text difficult to read at a later date, and it is an important record of the GA process. Bob1960evens (talk) 09:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

History
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 * Hopedale Station
 * In March 1879, all new rails were laid from Hopedale to Jamaica. It is not obvious exactly what this means, and it does not follow on from the previous sentence. Reading the source, I suggest "As part of a major refurbishment of the railroad, the rails from Hopedale to Jamaica were replaced in March 1879." or similar.


 * Maple Grove Station
 * The flag stop, with low-level platforms, was opened in order to provide better access to Maple Grove Cemetery,  What is a flag stop? Suggest it needs a little explanation. Is the mention of low-level platforms correct. The ref is to a diagram which shows platforms labelled "High Pl". The final clause about better access repeats the opening sentence of the paragraph, and so is redundant. Have a try at reworking it a bit.
 * They were low level. https://www.flickr.com/photos/127872292@N06/41025318494/in/dateposted/
 * Yes. I was looking at the wrong station. Bob1960evens (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

✅ ✅ ✅
 * ...was located in back of where the Mowbray and Kew Gardens Plaza Apartments are... The "in back of" sounds a little colloquial. Suggest "to the rear of" if that is what it means.
 * but it was double-tracked by 1902. Suggest "it had been double-tracked" to go with "by".

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 * Maple Grove Cut-Off
 * a new straightened four-track route that had low grade. The "low grade" needs clarifying. Does it mean that the line was flatter or of poorer quality?
 * The Cut-Off branched off of the original line... This does not read well. Suggest "branched from the original line".
 * the founder of Richmond Hill. Suggest a little context for Richmond Hill. Maybe just "urban neighbourhood of" or you could mention "racially and culturally integrated" as well.
 * and therefore, financially benefitted from the move. The comma needs removing, since the following clause does not stand on its own.
 * which was in the path of the cut-off... Previously, "cut-off" has been treated as a proper noun, so was "Cut-Off". Suggest standardising it for consistency, here and in following paragraph.
 * The Maple Grove station was moved... It is unclear what is going on here. Was it further down Lefferts Avenue or north of the tracks. Please clarify.
 * still were unused. should be "were still unused."

Kew Gardens Station
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 * using the Maple Grove cut-off. Another "cut-off".
 * The new station, and the development accompanying, prior to its opening, Needs to be "the accompanying development" or "the development accompanying it", and "prior to its opening" would be better placed at the start of the sentence, of after the following clause.
 * With the extension of the Independent Subway System's Queens Boulevard Line to Kew Gardens on December 31, 1936, ridership at this station decreased, even as soon as July 1937. This is a single sentence paragraph, and could be joined to the previous one. "...even as soon as July 1937." does not read well. Suggest "ridership at this station decreased, with the downturn noticed as early as July 1937." or similar.
 * ...which occurred near this station and Genovese had parked her car... "And" is not a good conjunction here. Suggest "after" or "where".
 *  to allow additional train cars to board. The cars don't board. Suggest "to allow boarding of additional train cars" or similar.

Lefferts Boulevard Bridge
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 * The bridge has been called Ponte Vecchio, which means "old bridge" in Italian, which refers to the bridge in Florence, which has stores on either side of it. Three consecutive "which"s as conjuctions is poor grammar. Suggest "The bridge has been called Ponte Vecchio, meaning "old bridge" in Italian, and refers to the bridge in Florence, which has stores on either side of it." or similar.

✅
 * residents have attributed it to the charm of the neighborhood. It needs reorganising, so "residents have attributed the charm of the neighborhood to it." or rewording, so "residents think it contributes to the charm of the neighborhood."

✅ ✅
 * Demolition threats
 * The MTA didn't pay for the repairs... Avoid contractions, so "did not pay".
 * businesses on the bridge that the their stores would be torn Either "the" or "their" needs removing.

✅
 * Platforms and tracks
 * The Main Line has four tracks; the two middle tracks not next to either platform, are used by express trains. Poor grammar. Suggest "there are no platforms on the two middle tracks, as they are used by express trains." or similar.

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 * General
 * There are a number of imperial units which could do with metric equivalents for the rest of the world. Suggest using convert, so "300 feet" becomes 300 ft in the text, and displays as 300 ft, etc.

That is the text reviewed. I'll check the refs next. There are a couple of dead links, which you can check from the toolbox. Bob1960evens (talk) 16:17, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Lead
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 * The acronym LIRR needs introducing on first occurrence, so Long Island Rail Road (LIRR).
 * The article needs a geographical context, so needs to mention that it is in the US in the first paragraph.
 * It generally has been a consensus not to include this.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 00:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that, as long as it's noted that this is in NYC, I don't think mentioning the US is necessary, since readers around the world generally know which country NYC is located. epicgenius (talk) 01:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The lead is a little short. It could do with mentioning the Maple Grove Cut-Off and new alignment in paragraph 2, and something from the "Demolition threats" section in paragraph 3.
 * ✅--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 11:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I think that I have dealt with all of the issues you brought up so far.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

The formal bit

 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * See comments above
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * See comments above
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * Pass/Fail:

All issues have been addressed, although I have just noticed [f82[third rail]] in the Infobox, which needs fixing. I would have done it myself, but am not sure what is intended. Please ensure this is fixed. I am awarding the article GA status.