Talk:Keweenaw Waterway

Merge
Redirect: This is a tricky one to get right. The Waterway is referred to as the Waterway, the Portage, the Canal, the River, etc. But, "Portage Lake Canal" is not a name that's usually used. Also, there is a dredged and a natural portion to the waterway, meaning that the "Canal" doesn't really refer to all of it. I suggest redirecting "Portage Lake Canal" to "Keweenaw Waterway". There really isn't any material to merge, then. &mdash;dcclark (talk) 15:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Sounds reasonable. older≠wiser 15:39, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Wow, I totally forgot about this. I'll go ahead with that redirect now. :) -- dcclark (talk) 23:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

question...
Am I correct to assume there are no locks on the waterway?

The article doesn't state the maximum draught of the vessels that can traverse the waterway. Ideally it should state this. If there are tight curves that limit the length of vessels it should state this too.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 19:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, there are no locks. I'll add some depth information. -- dcclark (talk) 23:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

History
I need some clarification. So, was this waterway not a thoroughfare prior to the dredging, or was it simply that the ends weren't wide enough to accomodate large boats? This isn't exactly made clear, nor is what parts of it are man-made and which parts are natural. It appears that Portage Lake is entirely natural, but maybe that this was once a closed system at one or both mouths of the waterway? --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:52, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * This does need work. Looking here, the south-east entrance was originally the Portage River which exited from Portage Lake into Lake Superior. This was dredged to make it navigable for large ships. The north-west end was swampy and a canal had to be cut to reach Lake Superior.
 * I wish I could find a better source, or the coast guard sites it claims to reference. Chris857 (talk) 14:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I did a bit more research, myself, after typing that, and it seems that there may have been a very small stream where the Boston Creek meets the current waterway at the northwest end of this thing. But, it definitely was too small to carry any ships.  I think the canal built through this area is now known as "Lily Pond."  The southeast looks as if it was always open and a natural river, though, it was widened and dredged to accomodate large ships.  It'd be nice, too, if someone could create a map showing the different bodies of water within this waterway, even though they are currently explained.  Torch Lake, Torch Bay and Portage Lake are all pretty obvious, but Lily Pond and Portage River probably need to be explained better.  Anyway, just something to think about when fixing this page. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I heard a speaker tonight about a different talk and he mentioned that there was about a half mile of land or sandbank at the north end. Eventually we may get this article figured out. Chris857 (talk) 02:56, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Possibly helpful Army Corps of Engineers site

 * http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/_kd/go.cfm?destination=Page&pge_id=2192&dialog=0 Chris857 (talk) 02:08, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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