Talk:Khawaja

The Truth about Khawaja's

I would first like to renlighten the Dravidian writer who has written the nonsense below on false speculation. The word "SYED" in Arabic means "Mister". You are wrightly to say that many people in the India/Pakistan are falsely and loosely using this word (SYED) to conjure for their materialistic gains and power and I can assure you 99% of them will not have any true lineage to the Islamic Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). I can enlighten to you further that the Title Khawaja has been around during Babylonian times and pre and was also honoured by the Persians. It is actually a Hebrew Title (Khawaja) meaning Lord/Master of Gentiles. Abraham (PBUH) was from this lineage. The title come into main stream in Arabia from Ayub Al-Ansari (Medina (A city in Saudi Arabia [A holy Islamic place])(He was Semite like the Quresh). The Title is also used by Sufi's and The saint of Amjer in India was a long descendant of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH. I know that you are Indian origin as how crudely you have described these people, regardless in what we write about them either be good or falsely degrading them, these Noble people will live on and would also like to bring to your attention, Khawaja are in other parts of the world too e.g. Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Iran, Iraq, Bahrain etc and in South America etc. This Nobility, which are related to and descendants of Abraham (PBUH). It seems that you are a simply person and out of jealously of these Noble people you have written total nonsense. Please, research your facts and then write your finding and conclusions. Dravidian

Below is an false information provided by Dravidian racist/peasant

Khawaja are not the descendants of the holy bloodline/ nobility of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). In Indo/Pak subcontinent the descendants of the Prophet Mohammed are known as Syed not khawaja They are found on the rout used by Mughal Invader Babur.From peshawer(1st setteled town after khayber Pass )to Dehli. Basicaly they are traders/venders not the marshal race.Unlike the local population of those area,s They all have a lot of common habits & traditions. The khawaja living in & around chakwal(Pakistan)might have descended from Kashmir.They are the only people in the territory use KAHWA(green tea without milk)Pink tea (green tea boiled with milk. KANGREE (A clay bowl in a woven basket used to carry charcoal umbers to warm hands/bed in winter) They don't mix or marry with local population & mostly built there own enclaves known as Mohallah Khawajgan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.226.88 (talk) 05:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

The TRIUTH OF KHAWAJA's and Their Real Orgions
Though you are correct to some degree, but you all have actually forgotten that the word "KHAWAJA" predates Persia, also Babylon, it actually originated from Atlantis. Khawaja’s are Aryan’s. The Ruling Nobility was Khawaja. Noah the Biblical Prophet was a Khawaja from the ruling family as his descendant Abraham was of the Babylonian Nobility who also was a Khawaja. You need to understand the fascination and beautiful sound of the word "khawaja". Khawaja are the "Lords/Masters/Guardians of Gentiles and Species. This beautiful title has been bestowed upon them. It is their Birth right and they actually are superior, are the True Illuminati's. Those that claim to be Illuminati ask them to prove it, ASK OF THEM, WHAT CLAN ARE THEY OF. Khawaja's have the title and always will be a gift to us. It is through their spiritual superiority that keeps this world of ours in balance. They are the soul of the cosmos, they are connected to the creator, because they are just KHAWAJA!. I envy them, to be born into true nobility.

Khawaja are the REAL ILLUMINATI, though the word illuminati have been coined with Baal. Khawaja are the enlightened ones, every Khawaja has these powers, but they are dormant, until they are awoken. Then the real enigma beings. It is said the Khawaja Elders of Old are souls of higher plane, but battle against evil to protect Gentiles and Species. Those are proclaiming to be Illuminati are actually sub-species (Gog Mogog); it is them that have corrupted the word Khawaja. This information was actually given to me from a Khawaja Elders of Old.

Etymology of Khoja/Khawaja
Hi, People in Central Asia(but also in the Caucasus and Anatolia) use extensively the word Khoja to address an elderly person considered to be wise and full of knowledge and experience. True, Turkish doesn't have the "kh" sound, so Turks say "Hoja", but all the other Turkic languages do, so Khoja is fully used there. As far as I know, Khoja comes from "koja" meaning "big"(less frequent) or "elderly"(much more frequent). What happened is that in Turko-Persian world which is Central Asia, it was adopted by the Persian in the form of "Khâja", and then (given the subsequent domination of Persian in classic early and middle medieval poetry) readopted by the Turkic languages in the form of Khoja (which is why Turks in Turkey still call their teachers Hoja).

I might be wrong, but I think the "Khwaja" comes from the misreading of the Persian version by the Arabic speakers: in Arabic script there is no one letter for the sound "o", so Persians use a combination of "w" (Arabic letter "waw") and "a/e"(Arabic letter "alif/elif"). An Arabic speaker would read it exactly as 'Khwaja'. And it probably spred like that across the South Asian subcontinent. As for "Khawaja" it is most probably the Arabic plural form of "Khwaja".

I understand that what I say is just a POV(which is why I write it in the discussion section), but I'm sure there's plenty of sources on this and then for every Turkic speaker, with some little knowledge of Arabic and/or Persian this must be self-evident.

I'll be eager to read any other interesting view on that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.25.139.25 (talk) 04:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Etymology of Khoja/Khawaja (correction)
To the writer whom has written simple explantations reference to Turkish, Arabic langauges. Would like to bring their attention that the designs of Race of Old/Black Nobility is this, to corrupt the meaning of the word and to demean it. I shall give the hint why are SUFI's of Naqashbandi school highly regarded even by Western figures. It is because Truth will always prevail and to undermine and distort information will never really be kept forever. KHAWAJA's (LORD'S) will return and bring back utopia to mankind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davesmithclarke (talk • contribs) 18:30, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Stop Changing this Page GOYIM'S
 Materialscientist  Materialscientist goyim do not make changes of this page or interfere with it in any force or shape. You do not have the ability to understand the nature of your actions gentile. Your simple mind and should not go beyond your capabilities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davesmithclarke (talk • contribs) 14:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

'''You may proclaim to be a Man, born of the Most HIGH, yet you do not know of your linage GOYIM. ' many have stated the same, but if you were born on the HOUSE Of KHAWAJA, you would know of its importance. Yet though you maybe of those that lost their way and forgot and became baffled by the teachings of the RACE Of OLD, arch enemies of HOUSE Of KHAWAJA. But child, do folly with the unknown, for if you are born of US. You will become to understand for what we ARE !'' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imrankhawaja2 (talk • contribs) 13:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

By A Man With "Khawaja" By His Name
 Materialscientist  Materialscientist goyim do not make changes of this page or interfere with it in any force or shape. You do not have the ability to understand the nature of your actions gentile. Your simple mind and should not go beyond your capabilities.

Thank you Materialscientist....

My name is "Khawaja Hassaan Khalid........" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.36.8.158 (talk) 22:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Dear Lord, this article is a mess
I'd fix it myself, but I can't tell fact from fiction anymore. HELP! Lockesdonkey (talk) 13:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

What is the origin of the Surname Khawaja
why are sayyids called Khawaja? that does not make sence. and are syeds and khawajas the same? Is khawajgan the plural of Khawaja? and are the khawaja s lords or sufis or a respected family? Are the khawajas the real illuminati????? are khawajas Holy spirits??? are they the chosen ones??? What is the family origin of khawaja faridudin and khawaja qutbuddin bakhtiar kaki and khawaja moinuddin chishti???? Wikipedia should answer all these above stated questions questions... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.39.138.246 (talk) 19:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

The TRUTH of Khawaja's
This to the morons out there that are distorting factual information that is provided. Khawaja are not gentiles or goyims, like most of the humans. They are descendants of the holy blood, they are of Noah, they are connect with all prophets of the Torah, Bible and The Koran. Physically you are not able to tell the difference between Khawaja's and gentiles, but the difference, becomes apparent on the spiritual plane, gentiles can not apprehend to that level and they are stronger and powerful in that dimension.

It is also true that through the ages, they have courted and breed with gentiles. As I have said many times, before that it is will not affect their abilities or prospect, negative information that is written about them and to offend them.

They are beyond this childish behavior, that is sometimes is used by certain individuals with agenda's. Ask of those that say that they are the Illuminati's, Ask them are they not actually the BASTARD's of luficer. Khawaja's are of the pure, they are the light of the cosmos. You and I will never see them in action, but they do keep our world in balance. The spiritual manfestion protects, gentiles.

They have always kept themselves in the shade and not to be noticed those around them. My interaction with the KHAWAJA, Elder of Old, was by coindence, searching for the truth. The word Lord (Baron/Count)their privilage to govern and maintain equilibrum amongst gentiles and goyims.

They are connected to the Cosmos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davesmithclarke (talk • contribs) 14:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Imperial, royal and noble ranks in West Asia, Central Asia, South Asia and North Africa
I think this title should be included in this series as well. Though I have no idea where to include it hierarchically. Or is it purely an honorary, non-noble title? Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.37.157.231 (talk) 03:33, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Merge from Khoja (Turkestan)
I don't support Khoja (Turkestan) being merged here, as that article is more focused on families/lineages of Khojas specifically in Xinjiang/Turkestan, while this article is about the title without going into lineages. --Voidvector (talk) 18:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)