Talk:Kiefer Sutherland/Archive 1

Cleanup
The biography for Sutherland requires massive cleanup, both chronologically and by importance.

The article mentions "PSA". What does PSA mean? Could somebody please make clear what this is? Thanks. Tim Pritlove 01:59, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * hazarding a guess based on context - Public Service Announcement?
 * I made a link to Public service announcement. Christopher Parham 23:55, 2005 May 22 (UTC)

Bank account
Has anyone noticed that in the picture of his cheque to the 1 second film project here, his bank account number as encoded on the bottom appears to be '2424242424' - interesting trivia, or pointless? 84.203.42.128 (talk) 23:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * He was in a show called "24"...112.198.83.161 (talk) 12:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Alma mater?
This feature on The Onion (link will expire in a couple of weeks) seems to imply that Sutherland has a degree from Princeton University. Could someone verify this, or find out more about his educational background? --LostLeviathan 21:17, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

It should also mention that he attened St.Andrew's College in Aurora, Ontario. --Madchester June 30, 2005 05:43 (UTC) " Since Keiffer was a student boarder at ST. ANDREW'S COLLEGE in Aurora, Ontario (just north of Toronto) for a few years...why hasn't WIKIPEDIA updated it's files? Keiffer was so fond of the school that he returned to it's chapel for his wedding!

Kiefer Sutherland in MASH?
I am knowing the TV-series and as far as i know he has never appeared in the TV-series MASH but his father Donald Sutherland has played Hawkeye Pearce in the Robert Altman movie. If i am wrong could you please give me the name of the episode? Melly42 15:51, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I have removed this from the article because 1)there is no source or detail (episode name/number) supporting a MASH appearance by an 11-year-old Sutherland. IMDB does not list this appearance. 2)The section is a "filmography", a list of some of the films he has appeared in, and as such should not include TV appearances (MASH was the only TV appearance listed here). Cmadler 12:33, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Slightly musteloid sentence...

 * After the original broadcast of the November 25, 2003 episode of 24, Kiefer Sutherland broke character to address the issue of gun safety, most likely to limit the liability of Fox Network in case someone attempted to recreate the Russian Roulette scenes.

I'm as likely to be cynical about Fox's motivations as the next person (or Simpsons character), but would we have a source for said speculation (much less likelihood)? Alai 03:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Twin Peaks, Fire Walk with Me
re: Sutherland plays the gay partner of Chet (Chris Isaak) in this supporting role.

There are no facts to support Kiefer's Character in Twin Peaks being gay.

Middle names
From what culture does he come from that allows so many middle names? Is this tradition?
 * one where people can give their children as many names as they like. Arniep 11:15, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have never heard of that place. What continent is the country of "people can give their children as many names as they like" on? Strange name for a country...184.155.138.213 (talk) 18:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree. The name must be fake. The law says you can only have 3 names!112.198.83.161 (talk) 12:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Which law is that? Has George Herbert Walker Bush ever been arrested for breaking this law?  Mnudelman (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

No categories?
Why is it that I don't see any categories for this entry? Siyavash 01:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

What happened to the trivia?!
What happened to all the trivia that used to be on this page? I understand that some facts did not have proper/reliable citations, but many of them did. Who decided that they could just delete all of these interesting facts (such as the Christmas Tree incident)? Most of the new facts arent even cited. Bwats2 22:08, 2006 July 25(UTC)
 * There's a wiki policy against trivia... I think, I'm guessing someone invoked that. (StarkeRealm 02:01, 29 September 2007 (UTC))

Twin sister
It says on IMDB that he has a twin sister.

Lost virginity?
''"I remember the first girl I slept with," he goes on. "She was seventeen, I was thirteen. I remember leaving her house after we'd done it, like, seven times, and I remember skipping to the bus stop, going, 'I've done it seven times.' And I was literally skipping." ''

From Rolling Stone Magazine

We could put this in the article... seriously, what a tool

--Mike

Award
I'll award the cool one who takes a pic of Jack Bauer(Kiefer Sutherland) and uploads it here! -- Walt e r Humala - Emperor of West Wikipedia| wanna Talk? 01:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Picture
Due to the terms of Wikipedia's image use policy we cannot use this picture. Wikipedia is allowed to use copyrighted pictures in, for example, the Jack Bauer article, as all pictures of him as a character will be copyrighted. However with Sutherland the actor, it is different as there will be pictures which we can use that are not copyrighted and so, unless we have permission from the owner of the copyright, we must use a free picture. All pictures of Jack Bauer will be copyrighted and so not for use in this article. So unfortunately I will have to remove it, for the time being at least. Algebra man 17:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Daughter Michelle and the years
It says Kiefer Sutherland is a grandfather from his daughter Michelle, who was born in 1976. Sutherland was born in 1966. I doubt that he was 10 when she was born, and it would not be very unusual for her to have a child at 30. Are these numbers messed up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jormundgard (talk • contribs) 09:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Michelle is his stepdaughter, he married her mother after her real father died--BoyoJonesJr 18:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Having just read the article and seeing the part where his marriage with Camelia made him step father to Michelle (Terry Kath's daughter) it says [citation needed], really? Isn't it common knowledge that when you marry someone with a kid you are considered the step parent? Why would this need to be cited? Now I could understand if this was about adoption, but it is not. The citation tag should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.56.29.252 (talk) 22:23, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Any relation to the Clan Sutherland?
Just curious. 204.52.215.107 07:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Avatar: The Last Airbender
Was he in that show? Because on Wiki 24 it says he was, but it doesn't list the role--User:NFAN3&#124;NFAN3 00:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Kiefer is not dating Reiko (2007)
Hi. Just want to point out an error in Kiefers biography. In in it, it says He is currently dating 'Reiko Aylesworth'(2007). This is not true. He dated her briefly in 2005. (Currently he is single) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.178.227 (talk) 23:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Who cares?112.198.82.203 (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Will he be deported from the U.S.?
As far as I can tell he is not a U.S. citizen. With a criminal conviction, can he maintain his visa to stay in the U.S.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.211.195.25 (talk) 02:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I remember watching the Charlie Rose Show awhile back where Kiefer Sutherland was a guest talking about 24 hours. He said to Charlie Rose that he became a US citizen recently. First time I learned that he and his famous father were of Canadian origin. --Pilot expert (talk) 10:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * FOX would pay off the government anyways if he wasn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.237.29.125 (talk) 14:52, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * America loves criminals. If the police stop him, all he has to do is say "No English. Mexico." And they will leave him alone...112.198.82.203 (talk) 13:47, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

What is his year of birth?
The article gives two different years of birth: 1966 and 1967. Only one can be correct. 84.60.125.42 (talk) 13:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

It can?129.139.1.68 (talk) 15:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Inclusion in Call of Duty World at War?
I'm not fully sure, but I'm quite certain that on Call of Duty 5, he does the voices for anything being announced on online matches. Can anyone support this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.67.128 (talk) 03:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes
I can support this statement.

He's a Kiefer
Can anybody explain the origins of the name? TREKphiler  hit me ♠  22:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, how did he get called Kiefer? Maikel (talk) 20:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * This says the meaning is "barrel maker"... (And it only took me 11mo to think to look. 8  TREKphiler   any time you're ready, Uhura  04:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The german word "Kiefer" can mean "pinetree" or "jaw". 77.20.106.145 (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * His name is very German in several ways. So is his face, and large forehead...112.198.82.203 (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland
Does anyone else think that having his entire name in the lead is a bit distracting and unnecessary? It makes his bio look unprofessional in a way.. not sure of the correct words to use how to describe it. I propose we change it to just "Kiefer Sutherland" and move the full name with the Rolling Stone reference to a sentence somewhere lower in the article. -- &oelig; &trade; 17:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * well I am wondering if that is really his full name-- comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You don't believe the Rolling Stone article? Why would it make that up? -- &oelig; &trade; 03:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * well it not really believing the article as much as was he ever really called by that name =^-^=;-- comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 03:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, it's ridiculous. It should be standard procedure to have people's full name in the beginning of the Personal Life section. --187.113.209.70 (talk) 04:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The reason I use Wikipedia is to find out stuff like famous peoples' full names... We should keep it. Crazy Eddy (talk) 20:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * As much as I disagree with putting the full name at the beginning of the lead, it is the MOS standard, and something that all bio articles must do. --Musdan77 (talk) 19:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I was just thinking about this. Despite having four middle names myself, I think it looks hideous. I've seen numerous articles, particularly for the aristocracy, which include excessive middle names in the bio, not in the intro. Surely enough this should be considered, even if it is his full legal name.
 * I don't use my full name, nor would I like to see it used if I had an Wikipedia page.
 * Uamaol (talk) 01:38, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Birth details
Hmm..I was pretty sure Kiefer was born in Canada. I'm gonna check the biography I have of Kiefer and check. Steven  Zhang  Join the DR army! 19:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC) is it me or does it seem strange that although born in the UK, he is listed as Canadian ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.92.239 (talk) 01:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Because he's Canadian, not British?184.155.138.213 (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * He stated on on the Jonathan Ross show (ITV (UK), March 2012) that he was born at St Mary's Hospital, Paddington, West London. I think he a reliable source. Can't find a link, being outside UK. 203.121.69.159 (talk) 16:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * He was born in England, but raised in Canada. So, he has a dual citizenship (one source). I don't know whether he lives more in Canada or the US. I guess that doesn't matter. --Musdan77 (talk) 18:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Being born in a country does not give you citizenship.184.155.138.213 (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Being born in England entitles him to invoke British citizenship, but does not force that on him. When your parents are 'visiting' a country you usually remain a citizen of that country. He gets to choose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.17.21 (talk) 19:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Being born in England does NOT give him a right to British citizenship, unless his parents were legal immigrants there for 10 years.184.155.138.213 (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Need to check fact
I see that it's written here that "He attended five different high schools...", and then lists 6. I can see 3 schools listed here, a couple at other sites, so are there sources for all the schools? Most sites seem to copy Wikipedia verbatim, so it is hard to tell what is correct, are there independent good sources for the schools he attended? Hzh (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Deleted report that KS is in upcoming Mortal Kombat (2015)
Sutherland's performance in the upcoming Mortal Kombat video game (2015 release) was listed (with Voice Role TBA) in the Video Games section, sourced to an IGN interview from Feb/2014, where Sutherland is quoted making the claim. Subsequently, in Jun/2014, in a Gamen Guide article, Sutherland's claim was addressed and his involvement categorically denied by NetherRealms studio head and Mortal Kombat co-creator Ed Boon, referenced with a YouTube video of an E3 2014 conference where Boon clearly states this. So, while sourced to a reliable publication, this piece of information is equally verifiably incorrect (the Gamen article also corrects its own story in Feb/2014, reporting KS' claim based on the IGN interview). While it is possible that Boon is in error or...lying, seems like on balance the Wikipedia entry should now wait until the game itself is released. --Tsavage (talk) 18:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hobbies
Is guitar collecting not a "permissable hobby"? Or is it just too trivial to be worthy of any mention? I have searched in vain for the word "hobby" at WP:NOT. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Unless his guitar collection turned into a music career I don't see how that's relevant or necessary to have on his page. Personal life is for relationships, philanthropy, charity, where they live, etc. Not what he does in his spare time, again, this isn't a fan page. What his favorites and hobbies are aren't notable. LADY LOTUS • TALK 16:16, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You said that your large scale deletion was supported by wiki policy, at WP:NOT. Where exactly is that defined? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yea, what wikipedia is not and wikipedia isn't a fan site or a gossip site. WP:COMMONSENSE. LADY LOTUS • TALK 16:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a personal opinion of yours. I think a summary of interests and hobbies is a pretty essential part of a full picture of any individual, whether a celebrity or not. Or are we to believe that Mr Sutherland is an embittered and driven workaholic who has no interests at all apart form his career? You have removed 3,262 bytes of material that was supported by seven different external sources. Are you claiming that was all "gossip"? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You are honestly the first editor I have ever come across that fights to put his hobbies back in. It's not a personal opinion of mine, it's from experience and dealing with other editors who have taught me what should be in Wikipedia articles in BLP and what should not and the consensus that I have come across is that hobbies and favorites shouldn't be in there. If you want to get a consensus on this, by all means, I would welcome what other editors have to say. And no, I'm not calling it gossip. I have said in my last edit summary "just because it's reliably sourced doesn't mean it should be included". LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You said "wikipedia isn't a fan site or a gossip site." I quite agree. But they're not "my hobbies", are they. A trimming down of the section might well have been in order, but a wholesale excision is way, way over the top. In the absence of any clear policy here, I'd welcome other views. Did you know that this guy had hobbies? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:55, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Name Vandalism
His name is obviously NOT "Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland" as that would not only be illegal, but not even fit on a Certified Birth Certificate! Someone please fix this!184.155.138.213 (talk) 18:35, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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official website is not official. please remove the link
keifer wants the link removed please, thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.131.228 (talk) 14:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ --Musdan77 (talk) 01:19, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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Regarding his Metal Gear roles
Just thought i should voice the opinion that the line "provided the facial motion capture and English voices of Big Boss and Venom Snake in the video games Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain." Should probably be changed, as it reveals a very heavy story element of the game, and is, in my opinion, something that shouldn't be featured on the front page of an article. This could be changed to be more cryptic to avoid spoilers, with further lines in the article adressing it fully. 69.11.82.239 (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC) You wouldn't go to a page about Metal Gear expecting to be able to avoid spoilers, so why should that be applied here ? ToxicReap (talk) 01:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't go to a page about apples expecting to be able to avoid spoilers about oranges — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Skank (talk • contribs) 17:26, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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Big Boss Isn't Snake
I suppose spoilers don't matter, so should we really say that Snake is 'also known as' Big Boss ? He didn't technically voice Snake at all. He only voiced Big Boss, who is the paramedic version of the character. ToxicReap (talk) 01:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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Nationality
As far as I've seen. Non-signed users who have been fighting on nationality. I believe we should put this up to a vote. I'm not much of a kiefer fan but as far as I've seen. And I believe everyone who have been in this knows that birthplace does not define a person's nationality nor his citizenship. Since kiefer sutherland has never referred himself as english. And he grew up in Canada. Also refers himself as one. We should change it to Canadian only. I believe every sensible person will understand me. Hughes Anderson (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Sutherland was born in England and maintains British citizenship. A cursory google search yields evidence of that fact. Here's an interview where he says he has a British passport: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/kiefer-sutherland-you-ask-the-questions-495033.html If someone has citizenship somewhere it should absolutely be mentioned. MOS:OPENPARABIO states that the nationality of a person belongs in the lead, so in the lead it lives.  The Savage  Norwegian  17:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I believe you dont know that there is a difference between nationality and citizenship. Nationality means a state of belonging to a nation. Citizenship means a status. Nationality is what you choose. Unlike POB or descent. Citizenship is just a legal status of being a citizen. Hughes Anderson (talk) 23:49, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I believe you dont know that there is a difference between nationality and citizenship. Nationality means a state of belonging to a nation. Citizenship means a status. Nationality is what you choose. Unlike POB or descent. Citizenship is just a legal status of being a citizen. Hughes Anderson (talk) 23:50, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * If you want me to see your replies, you're gonna have to learn to format them properly. Colons are your friend. On nationality, do you have any specific evidence that Sutherland has chosen a Canadian or American nationality and renounced a British one? Aside from spending time in Canada and the US, I mean. The burden of proof rests with you, disproving his British nationality, since he's on-record talking about having British citizenship. Biographies of living persons, like all articles, require verifiability.  The Savage  Norwegian  20:54, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


 * In the source posted, Sutherland states he has a British passport., what sources do you have that contradict that?  Schazjmd   (talk)  01:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * shifted from the wrong talk thread This video shows that kiefer sutherland identifies himself as canadian. Now if you have authentic proofe like this. We'll call him 'English-Canadian'. But according to right now. He is Canadian. Hughes Anderson (talk) 23:48, 10 December 2019 (UTC)


 * shifted from the wrong talk thread Here you go. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:53, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , you haven't linked to a video. Schazjmd   (talk)  01:45, 14 December 2019 (UTC)


 * , until you achieve consensus on the question, you must stop changing the article to your preferred version. If you do so again, it will be treated as edit warring.  General Ization  Talk </i> 03:16, 14 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Also, you are mistaken in your assertion that someone's nationality is based purely on how they "identify themselves". As the article Nationality explains, "nationality is a legal relationship between an individual person and a state."  This relationship does not change purely because someone does not announce that they possess one or another nationality. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 03:39, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Best to inform our readers precisely....let's say what other like sources say "[British-born Canadian actor..]" Britannica. Then explain in the body with a source that also explains like this and explain he identifies as a Canadian with a source like this. In Canadian speech "an English Canadian" has  different meanings thus can lead to confusion over the broad more historical term  English Canadians that Wikipedia splits  off.-- Moxy 🍁 05:05, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with 's suggestion. "British-born Canadian" is easy to understand; as an American, I'm not quite sure what an "English Canadian" is. (The video link posted in the edit summary doesn't add any new information to the discussion.)  Schazjmd   (talk)  15:09, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Our article English Canadians should clear that up: "English Canadians or Anglo-Canadians (French: Canadiens anglais), refers to either Canadians of English ethnic origin and heritage or to English-speaking or Anglophone, Canadians of any ethnic origin ..." Sutherland meets the criteria for both usages of the term. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 23:46, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Why not Canadian? His birthplace is not to be combined with his nationality. What is wrong with you all? He is considered Canadian. And it will make more sense. Hughes Anderson (talk) 17:09, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Our job here is to regurgitate sources....and as seen above and in a search about  this topic ....it comes up from time to time in bios about him. So we  should inform our readers of this fact and provide them with reliable research material. As a Canadian I agree he should be called just a Canadian really cuz he grew up here in Canada and because of his grandfather contribution to Canadian history....but the fact is he's a british-born Canadian who identify strongest with Canada...so let's say this and source it for our readers.-- Moxy 🍁 18:27, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * May I suggest,, that you take a step back from statements such as "What is wrong with you all?" Yours is not the only opinion that matters here, and suggesting that there is something wrong with other editors is, in effect, a personal attack and will get you blocked. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 18:33, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Well. Moxy. You are canadian. So am I. We have 1/4 of foreign born population. And we refer everyone as just 'Canadian'. For equality. British born? We know he was born in the UK. But to mention it with his nationality doesn't make sense. It is mentioned. So let's just let him stay Canadian. And not associate his nationality with his birthplace. C'mon we can agree on that. I request here and apologise for the "what is wrong with you all?" comment. It will make more sense. Hughes Anderson (talk) 23:17, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Please accept me request. Because Canadian or British-born Canadian. Canadian is good.i dont know about your opinions but please agree on my opinion. It'll make me sleep good at night. Please. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Having looked at our English Canada article which says English-Canadian is primarily contrasted with French-Canadian, I more strongly agree now with using British-born Canadian in place of English-Canadian. Schazjmd   (talk)  15:12, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

British born shouldn't be represented that way with his nationality. We know that. It's in the box. We r here talking about something else. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , British-born Canadian is accurate. He holds a British passport. Here is a source that he holds dual citizenship.   Schazjmd   (talk)  00:20, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Do you even know the difference between nationality and citizenship? We cannot associate nationality with ones POB or descent or citizenship. It's a relation between the country and and a person. His POB is mentioned in the box. No need to associate that with his nationality. Its about English-Canadian or just 'Canadian'. I hope you know that. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:28, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Per MOS:CONTEXTBIO, The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident (bold added by me). He is a citizen of both countries. Schazjmd   (talk)  00:36, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Here is the proof that kiefer sutherland is only Canadian. 14:48
 * (ALMOST) 24 QUESTIONS WITH KIEFER SUTHERLAND | Canada's Top Ten Film Festival
 * YouTube app · TIFF Originals
 * Jan 19, 2016. Watch this video at 6:27. He answered this. Unfortunately I cant send the link. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keanu Reeves is a British citizen too. But he is canadian because he identifies himself as canadian. So does Kiefer sutherland. So now change it. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:38, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The question asked in the video is: do you think of yourself as Canadian or American? Nobody is trying to add American to the article. Schazjmd   (talk)  00:41, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Now If you have an authentic source like this. We'll keep it this way. Or it going to be changed. Hughes Anderson (talk) 00:43, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

The questions dont have english in them because everyone knows there is no sense in relating that with his nationality. He grew up in Canada and America. English is out. It can't be considered his nationality. So he is canadian. Hughes Anderson (talk) 23:36, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

There is nothing left to argue about. Please with all due respect. Let's just change it and agree. Hughes Anderson (talk) 23:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2023
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a42701330/annie-wersching-dies-tributes/ 2601:601:1B00:8670:10E9:E710:284:9F92 (talk) 21:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It's not clear what changes you want to the article. The page you have cited is a secondary source for a tweet by the article's subject paying tribute to Annie Wersching. small jars 23:07, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

St. Clair JR High
https://www.facebook.com/groups/stclairjuniorhighschool 142.116.182.156 (talk) 17:19, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

PLEASE RESTORE HIS FULL NAME
it's important 2600:6C44:7D7F:6FB6:D9FF:F8E0:B2BB:7D01 (talk) 03:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2023
provided the facial motion capture and English voice for Big Boss and Venom Snake in the video games Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. FloatingPyro (talk) 09:52, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 11:21, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

where is twenty four??
how do you have a wiki page on Kiefer Sutherland without quoting "24" as one of his biggest successes right at the beginning of the article? The guy did 8 or 9 seasons as the leading man plus 2 movies... and it was a tremendous success with a huge following worldwide. this is a huge oversight. What would Jack Bauer do? 84.73.89.242 (talk) 19:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It's stated in the second sentence in the lead. Schazjmd   (talk)  19:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)