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Tombs of Joshua, Caleb, and Nun?

 * "According to a Samaritan tradition, noted in 1877, the tombs of Joshua and Caleb were in Kifl Haris. [ref Conder and Kitchener]


 * According to, the tomb of Joshua is in Timnath-heres, which is considered by Orthodox Jews to be the current location of Kifl Haris, and Jewish tradition also places the tombs of Caleb and Nun at Timnath-heres. Thousands make the pilgrimage to the tombs on the annual commemoration of Joshua's death, 26th of Nisan on the Hebrew calendar. [ref israelnationalnews.com]"


 * 1) The Samaritan tradition identifying Kifl Haris with Timnath-heres has an excellent source. There is however nothing here about the Jewish tradition. Is it a new, 19th-20th c. thing, adopted from the Samaritans? Is it older? Which streams in Judaism accept it? Archaeologists and other researchers don't, Khirbet Tibnah is better accepted.
 * 2) All three buildings look very much like Muslim walis or maqams. What is their history?
 * 3) There is nothing in the cited Bible passage about Caleb or Nun. The source (Israel National News) is a biased and unreliable pro-settler & Orthodox one. Even so, it speaks of the commemoration of Joshua's death, not of Caleb or Nun. When, how did the 2 get mixed in?
 * 4) Caleb received far-away Hebron as his allotment, is there no tradition of him being buried there? Is there another cenotaph or "tomb" for Caleb in Hebron or elsewhere?
 * 5) Are the 3 structures there considered by worshippers to be tombs, as opposite to memorials/cenotaphs?
 * 6) How does Nun come to have a tomb in Canaan/LoI? What's being taught, that Nun's son, Joshua, accompanied Moses for 40 years as an adult, and his father lived trough all of this plus the conquest? Not talking logic (he himself as a living person is not mentioned with a single word in the entire Hebrew Bible), just what's the legend/tradition saying, if anything? Arminden (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As for the last point, I don't know what the tradition is for this, but the Bible reports that the Israelites relocated the bones of their elders to Israel with them, when they left Egypt. If Nun was no longer alive, then he may have been taken as well. Drsruli (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC)