Talk:Kilij Arslan I

Birthdate 1079
Was he really born in 1079? That would make him still an adolescent at the time of the First Crusade? Didn't he have grown sons at the time of his death? john k 16:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)hi


 * I have no idea where I got that date from...I can no longer find anything that mentions his age at all, but he seems to have had a family already in 1092 (Anna Comnena seems to imply that, anyway). Sorry! Adam Bishop 19:37, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * The Crusades Through Arab Eyes, by Amin Maalouf, mentions that he was "not yet seventeen when the invaders arrived" (p 3). That would fit with a birth date of 1079. Maalouf wrote the book in 1989, so he can't have picked up the date from the Wikipedia article (like every other source now on the net seems to have done). --Jesuisse 22:09, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

-- "Kılıç Arslan" isn't Arabic. They are Turkic words. Kılıç-Sword, Arslan-Lion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.230.106.218 (talk) 17:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC) i have change the statement "He also destroyed crops and water supplies along their route in order to damage logistical supplying of the Crusader Army." into this one, "He also poisoned crops and water supplies along their route in order to damage logistical supplying of the Crusader Army which in turn caused heavy losses to the Crusaders again."

i will add resources soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.179.96.13 (talk) 13:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

February 2011
KansasBear, I think part of the dispute here may be the use of a source from 1802. Surely we could have learned more about Kilij Arslan in the subsequent 200 years. Adam Bishop (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, it has more to do with the fact that I had made the edit than anything to do with the circumstances surrounding his death. Do you have more information in regards to his demise? --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Judging by the systematic revertion of my edits, your concern seems specious. Here, the anon IP removes the Cambridge University reference. Also other reverts, by said anon IP removed references and referenced information with no edit summary or explanation on the talk pages.
 * The "200 year old reference"
 * Was not initially placed by me.
 * Was without volume number or publisher
 * Did not state Kilij Arslan died in his capital(Mosul)
 * Therefore, I simply used the same reference found the circumstances of his death and filled out the reference. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, true...I'm not really sure what the dispute is then. The citation from the Cambridge History of Islam is fine, and I've updated the 1802 reference to Runciman's History of the Crusades from 1951, which says the same thing anyway. Maybe the anonymous editor can explain what the problem is? Adam Bishop (talk) 03:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)