Talk:Killing baby Hitler

"Liberal comedian Stephen Colbert"

 * ...liberal comedian Stephen Colbert and conservative pundit Ben Shapiro were counted among the opponents of the policy...In contrast, American comedian Stephen Colbert responded to the question by saying that he would not kill baby Hitler and would instead seek to raise him in a loving home."

This is an odd juxtaposition. We are informed that Colbert's liberalism and Shapiro's conservatism are somehow relevant, but in reality, their respective positions appear informed by religious morality, not political alignment; in the case of Colbert, it's Catholicism, and in regards to Shapiro, it's Judaism. Yet, this isn't mentioned. Viriditas (talk) 20:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Given that we don't refer to the politics of either Bush or Hanks in the same sentence, I've removed the wording of liberal and conservative. I also notice that the book footnote citation used to support Colbert doesn't mention his politics. Viriditas (talk) 00:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Re: Deontological argument
Surely, there is missing criticism here? For example, the recent conclusions of LePage v. Center for Reproductive Medicine has brought forward many discussions related to the limits of such deontological arguments. I realize we can only go with the sources here, but it feels like the criticism is being left out here. Viriditas (talk) 00:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Re: Stemwedel

 * Janet Stemwedel argues that using time travel to change social conditions would be preferable to infanticide, as it would recognise that the responsibility for Hitler's actions lie not just with him, but also in the collective responsibility of those that raised, followed and elected him.

There should really be a counterargument here, as arguing that time travel is preferable to infanticide, even when changes to the timeline could result in other deaths or unintended consequences leading to death, makes no sense at all. Viriditas (talk) 00:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Viriditas: If you know of any sources that discuss criticism of either the deontological argument against killing baby Hitler, or Stemwedel's argument that changing social conditions would be preferable to killing baby Hitler, then feel free to add in that information. I personally couldn't find any counterarguments to either while researching and writing the article. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Viriditas (talk) 20:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

The 80s
The article states recommending that time travelers avoid such an activity and instead visit the 1980s in the theoretical physics section. This proposed alternative is somewhat confusing without further context. Clovermoss 🍀 (talk) 21:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I noticed that too! I think it is supposed to be a very inside joke referring to Back to the Future, or maybe the obsession with 1980s culture, fashion, and music with younger generations (for example Stranger Things, etc.). So, yes, I agree, a footnote explaining this is needed.  But, I admit, I enjoyed this addition and I hope it isn't removed. Viriditas (talk) 22:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Come And See
There’s a film from Belarus called Come and See that ends with this idea Victor Grigas (talk) 13:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)