Talk:Killing of Marcus-David Peters

Separate Wikipedia entry for Princess Blanding
As she is a candidate for governor (2021 Virginia gubernatorial election), mentioned frequently in media and notable in her own right, here is a draft for a new, separate entry for Princess Blanding: Draft:Princess Blanding. Please feel free to edit/contribute.

Inclusion of Body Cam video (YouTube)
Shouldn't the body cam video/audio be linked in this article so the reader can be fully informed or at least have the option to be? For example, an edit concerning a threat to kill the officer was reverted as vandalism, but the body cam video clearly shows Mr. Peters shouted "back the fuck up" to the officer. (Video at 2:04) He also shouted, "put that taser down or I'll kill you." (Video at 2:06). Finally, Mr. Peters shouts, "die motherfucker" at the officer. (Video at 2:09). These facts are not vandalism.

Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQr_lKg_wg — Preceding unsigned comment added by  2601:2c1:8380:b2d0:d096:d713:6d71:cc3c  (talk) 16:06, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Good question. This is a fundamental issue of how Wikipedia works. Because we have no professional editors checking over work, we emphasize using sources that have already had their analysis go through an editorial process. A Wikipedia editor should just summarize these findings, not conduct original research. So rather than citing the video itself and debate how it should be described, we follow what reliable sources have said about it. Making sure to cite such a source will help make sure an edit isn’t reverted. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the reply. Is a "reliable source" (as defined by Wikipedia) always necessary? Or is it just an opportunity for the injection of opinion? (WP:RS specifically references "published" sources). Why, for example, does someone need to write about the YouTube video when it speaks for itself? Isn't the video a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2c1:8380:b2d0:8170:1653:6eaa:f050  (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So when I say we rely on sources that have already gone through an editorial process, I mean WP:Secondary sources, in this instance probably newspaper accounts. Wikipedia, which aims to give a capsule summary not a comprehensive detailing of any given topic, of course will not include a transcript of the video and even if we did, there would probably be a lot of debate about how to describe it. Per WP:No original research, we don’t do that; we look at how reliable secondary sources have summarized a topic, and give a summary of those (this makes Wikipedia a tertiary source). As far as when such a source is necessary, basically any time there’s editor disagreement, citing such sources becomes necessary to decide how to describe something. (Additionally content about living people has higher sourcing standards than the average article; that wouldn’t apply to Peters here but would to any living people mentioned.) Hope that helps. By the way it’s customary to sign Talk page posts using the following code: ~ . Innisfree987 (talk) 17:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

"Princess Blanding" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Princess Blanding. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 26 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Smartyllama (talk) 16:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)