Talk:Killing of Wadea al-Fayoume

Online rumors that Czuba is Jewish are false
Some people online have been speculating that Czuba is Jewish, which motivated him to kill a Palestinian child. I added one RS to the article reporting that Czuba is a Roman Catholic who attends church with his wife. The local Patch also quotes his defense attorney as saying "Czuba also attends St. Mary's Immaculate Church in Plainfield," which confirms the source I cited but may not be RS in itself. HouseOfChange (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 October 2023
Please add the following text to the "legal proceedings" section:

"In addition to the Justice Department's investigation, the FBI announced a separate hate crime investigation on October 16. " Truecrimefan22 (talk) 09:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've made the requested change with some modifications to the reference and the sentence. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 02:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Name of suspect
Some reputable sources e.g. have named the suspect, who has been indicted. Should the article do as well?
 * https://www.reuters.com/world/us/illinois-man-charged-with-hate-crime-fatal-stabbing-muslim-boy-2023-10-15/
 * https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/plainfield-landlord-joseph-czuba-arraigned-murder-hate-crime-wadea-al-fayoume-stabbing/
 * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/landlord-pleads-not-guilty-killing-muslim-boy-hate-crime

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 * Yes we should, BLPCRIME does not say we cannot publish his name, just we should consider. Named in numerous RSs, we look like a nanny outfit by withholding it. WWGB (talk) 13:34, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @WWGB Why isn't the name of the suspect in the article? 2603:8080:EAF0:9B00:28CC:C890:22A6:6D9E (talk) 07:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It is now. WWGB (talk) 08:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Given the highly publicized nature of the accused's identity and their relationship (as landlord) to the victims, I strongly agree their identity as the accused belongs in the article. However, because the default per WP:BLPCRIME is innocent until proven guilty (and WP:BLPPUBLIC says an accusation against an individual of public notability should be carefully presented as such), I limited mentions of their name in the body to the "Accused" and "Legal Proceedings" sections. Since the reporting only says he's accused, we can only say he's accused at this point. Danazar (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Image deletion discussion
The baffles me. It very obviously was not a press agency image - he was not known before he died, so it's obviously a photo taken by his family and so the copyright belonged to his family, who would have little commercial interest in exploiting the tragic loss of their son. Seeing a picture of him is obviously contextually important and standard on these kinds of pages. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)