Talk:Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism

Isn't it just Juche
from what I gather, all reliable third party sources that deal with "Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism" and Juche say that they are one and the same. This article seems to cite, in addition to such views, only the Kims themselves, who insist on there being a difference. Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il quite frankly aren't reliable third party sources on this. What justifies this article as separate from Juche? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:05, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem is, if you ask me, that the Juche articles doesn't state clearly in the lead that Juche and Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism are one and the same (in the Juche article). --TIAYN (talk) 02:04, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * well should it (ie. is that what the reliable sources say)?
 * The article (sourced) says "According to political analyst Lim Jae-cheon, "Kimilsungism refers to thoughts of Kim Il-sung. It is interchangeable with the juche [sic] idea."[1]". So yeah, it should! --TIAYN (talk) 18:22, 14 January 2017 (UTC)