Talk:KinderCare Learning Centers

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Edit requested on July 3, 2019
Hello,

My name is Ryan James, Senior Director of Communications for KinderCare Education. We recently updated some of our public stats and would like to ensure they're accurately reflected here. Thank you Wikipedia for your help.

Under the first/top section:

- Please change: "KinderCare operates in 39 states and the District of Columbia"

- To read: "KinderCare operates in 40 states and the District of Columbia"

- Please change: "Some 200,000 children are enrolled in 1,600 early childhood education community centers"

- To read: "Over 186,000 children are enrolled in 1,400 early childhood education community centers"

- Please change: "Over 100 employer-sponsored centers"

- To read: "Over 400 employer-sponsored centers"

- Please change "KinderCare Education employs approximately 30,000 people"

- To read: "KinderCare Education employees over 36,000 people"

In the sidebar:

- Please change: "Number of employees 24,000"

- To read: "Number of employees 36,000"

Accreditation section:

- Please change "Other associations have accredited over 700 KLC centers

- To read: "Other associations have accredited over 1300 KCLC centers

(Source for all of the above: https://www.kc-education.com/-/media/corporate/docs/kce%20company%20fact%20sheet.pdf)

Also, under KinderCare Education and Employment sections, there are multiple inaccurate statements. Please consider editing or removing the following:

- "For example, the teacher-to-student ratios in preschool classrooms is one teacher to twelve students, higher than other childcare facilities in the area." This is not true. Ratios vary state by state based on local regulations.

- "The lack of consistency makes classroom management difficult, which leads to overwhelmed new hires who are quickly burnt out." This is not true and there is no documentation here to prove that this statement is true.

- "Online training videos and little to no in-classroom experience, new teachers are placed in a classroom of 8-12 young children, often without a period of transition for the children." This is not true. Ratios are determined on a state by state basis. We do offer a transition period and training for teachers. This is also an incomplete sentence.

- "KinderCare hires young grads and new teachers to lead the most difficult classrooms." This is not true and there is no documentation here to prove that this statement is true.

- "Employees are not able to be in the building if they are not on the clock" This is not true and there is no documentation here to prove that this statement is true.

- "Most of the time, teachers are constructing boards and preparing craft activities while the children are playing, which takes away from child supervision and classroom management." This is not true and there is no documentation here to prove that this statement is true.

- "The inability to perform all of these tasks well and at an adequate pace, which is judged harshly by co-workers and administration, often leads to the termination of recently hired employees." This is not true and there is no documentation to support this claim.

- "Even with an incredibly competitive hourly wage for childcare teachers in Ohio, it is not uncommon for a center to lose a teacher due to burn-out every 3-6 months." There is no documentation to support this claim.

Edit requested on January 20
Hello,

My name is Kristin Kelly, Senior Director of Communications for KinderCare Education. We rebranded our company at the beginning of the year (formerly Knowledge Universe). Thank you Wikipedia for moving that page over to our new name!

To reflect the new name, can you please consider the following changes:

Under this section: KinderCare Learning Centers (first/top section)

Please change: KinderCare Learning Centers is an American operator of for-profit child care and early childhood education [4] facilities founded in 1969 and currently owned by Knowledge Universe

To read: ... "currently owned by KinderCare Education" (source: http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/blog/2016/01/why-the-1-5knowledge-universe-is-changing-its-name.html and http://www.kindercare.com/about-us/connect-with-us/press-releases/knowledge-universe-education-llc-to-change-name-to-kindercare-education)


 * ✅, thanks for providing a source. Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Also please change: Knowledge Universe employs approximately 30,000 people in the United States and the parent company is based in Singapore. Knowledge Universe also offers many other facilities internationally.[6] Please change to read: KinderCare Education currently employs 32,000 people in the United States; its headquarters are in Portland, Oregon. Delete last sentence (the international piece belongs to our former owners, Knowledge Universe).


 * ✅ Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Under this section: Knowledge Universe

Please change:

Knowledge Universe is one of Oregon's largest privately held companies and a large employer in the Portland metro area. Executive leadership is based out of the Portland National Support Center for Knowledge Universe.[13] In 2012, company revenues were about $1.45 billion, down from approximately $1.6 billion in 2010.[14]

To: KinderCare Education is one of Oregon's largest privately held companies and a large employer in the Portland metro area. Executive leadership is based out of the Portland National Support Center for KinderCare Education.


 * ✅, reworded slightly for clarity. Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Under this section: Knowledge Universe timeline

Please change: Knowledge Universe, KinderCare's parent company, operations include: Knowledge Beginnings, Children’s Creative Learning Centers (CCLC), and Champions.[17]

To: KinderCare Education, KinderCare Learning Center's parent company, operations include: Knowledge Beginnings, Children’s Creative Learning Centers (CCLC), and Champions.[17]


 * ✅ Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Under this section: Accreditation

Please change: The National Association for the Education of Young Children (NAEYC) and other associations have accredited over 700 KLC centers.[18]

To: The National Association for the Education of Young Children (NAEYC) and other associations have accredited more than 1,000 of our centers. Source: http://www.kindercare.com/blog/?s=accreditation


 * ❌ I would like to see an independent source supporting this statement, not an entry in the company blog. Preferably an article by a major news outlet; press releases are not acceptable and I'd prefer not to rely upon a business journal. Basically, when Wikipedia writes about companies, we do not want to rely upon what companies say about themselves when the interpretation of that claim could be disputed. Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

"Tom Wyatt Named New CEO of Knowledge Universe-US". KU. 20 January 2012. -- please delete -- link no longer works

"Our Executive Team". KU. -- please delete -- link no longer works

"15,000 BOOKS...TEN STATES...AND SEVEN COUNTRIES: KINDERCARE "READ.SHARE.GIVE" CAMPAIGN PROMOTES EARLY READING" (PDF). 22 September 2011. -- this link doesn't work

"KinderCare Learning Centers, Inc. Company Profile". Yahoo Finance. This link has expired

"Knowledge Learning Corporation Timeline". KLC. This link doesn't work

KinderCare Learning Centers". KU. Link no longer works

"KinderCare Learning Centers Accreditation". KLC. Link does not work


 * ❌ We don't delete references just because they are expired or the site has been taken down. Websites like the Internet Archive often retain copies of cited articles, and there are automated scripts on Wikipedia that periodically check for such copies, and then fix the links on our articles. The references must remain so as to keep track of where the information in the article came from. Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Under this section: External Links

Please change: Knowledge Learning Corporation – Redirects to Knowledge Universe Site

To: Knowledge Learning Corporation -- Redirects to KinderCare site (link to www.kindercare.com)


 * I deleted the second link because under your proposed change, it would just be a duplicate of the first. Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

KinderCare Education (talk) 23:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Kristin. I've accepted some of the changes above, and rejected some of the others. Hope this helps. Altamel (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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