Talk:King's Quest/Archive 1

Page too long
This might be innovative, but I think the page is too big. What about writing separate articles for each game?
 * I agree this could be a good idea... Perhaps a main page for the gist of the whole series and then a page for each individual game in detail  --Quasipalm 05:39, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Automapping
"This was allegedly the first adventure game featuring auto-mapping, with a 'magic map' found in the game that can be used to teleport to most locations that the player has visited before. This feature was rather unpopular because fans claimed it made the game too easy, hence it was not included in future Sierra games."

This isn't correct. KQ6 has a magic map -- in fact it's even called the magic map i think -- that allows a user to warp between areas. So does another Sierra game, Robin Hood, if I remeber correctly. Maybe the writer meant that later games didn't include a map that could allow a warp to any specific screen?

Also, I think it would be good to see a section on fan-created installments of the KQ games. KQ9 and KQ2 come to mind.

-- Quasipalm April 1st 2004


 * King's Quest 3's "magic map" was an auto-mapping feature, that was not an item in the game, recorded where you had been in the game, and allowed you to skip around, thus making it too easy, according to some players. King's Quest 6's was an actual physical inventory item and plot device that only worked within sight of the sea, it was also the only way to travel between the islands. Conquest of the Longbow's (the Robin Hood game) map was a part of the game that let you choose where to walk to overland, like the maps in the Baldur's Gate series. These were not a simplification of those games, in fact, it was just a part of them. MasterGrazzt 19:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

"King's Quest 3's "magic map" was an auto-mapping feature, that was not an item in the game, recorded where you had been in the game, and allowed you to skip around, thus making it too easy, according to some players."

Actually King's Quest 3 magic map was an item in the game, you had to pick it up from Mannanan's room, and it was also one of the * items you had to hide before he returned each time. If you never picked up the map you could not use the map. I think it was even possible to beat the game without the map, though I never tried.

Working Notes
working notes/TODO:
 * technical data
 * some already there, more about later games needed
 * release/marketing/commercial data
 * commercial success/flop of earlier games
 * collector's bundle or something released, maybe a few years ago
 * overall: why was this series so successful?
 * story
 * Roberta Williams is not even mentioned yet!
 * general info about setting and characters in introductory section
 * comparison to other games in this genre (fantasy) maybe
 * content
 * what kind of puzzles are involved
 * different nature of earlier games (kq1/2 mostly about exploring, later games had stronger storylines/puzzles)
 * did Sierra ever remove the possibility of getting stuck/dying?
 * comparison to other games in this genre (adventure games) maybe

-- Kimiko 13:10, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Highest selling computer game?
What's the reference King's Quest V "became the highest selling computer game in history." -- mparaz


 * I suppose it means that at that time more copies of KQ5 were sold than of any other computer game before. I'm not sure if that is true. The statement was there before I started reworking the article. -- Kimiko 09:25, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler Template
What should we do about the multiple inclusions of the spoiler template? There's too many and not all are being replaced. Also, re the storyline for VII: Last year I added short storylines for all the games. It seems an anon removed all the summaries and no one noticed. So I just just added my original summary back in. It's not that detailed though. Eric119 23:18, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)


 * It looks detailed enough for now.
 * Re: spoiler warnings: One solution would be to move the storylines to a separate section with only one warning at the top of it. I like the current structure of the article better though. Another would be to place only one spoiler warning near the top of the article. I think that would do just fine. In fact, I'm going to do that right away :o) -- Kimiko 08:08, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The Black Cloak Society
What's the deal with all these "confirmed" members of The Black Cloak Society? To my knowledge there are only three members confirmed by the games: Shadrack, Alhazred, and Mordack (and likely Manannan, but this isn't explicitly stated). None of the other villains have much to do with The Black Cloak; Lucreto isn't even on the same level, being immortal.

I recommend separating the information on the Black Cloak Society and retitling this section "Villains in King's Quest" or something similar.

King's Quest Omnipedia
http://www.sq7.org/KQ/index.php/Main_Page

Silver Lining
what about adding info about The Silver Lining?--DivineShadow218 16:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You mean like The Silver Lining? The link is under "Fan-created episode". -Quasipalm 16:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Mask of Eternity
King's Quest: Mask of Eternity may be referred to informally as KQVIII or KQ8; however, no indication of its number in the series appears anywhere on the box or manual. Please refer to it as MoE or KQ:MoE. It is not officially known as KQ8. Kat, Queen of Typos 00:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

role in the computer industry
This is a really important game series, and I am disappointed to see there is nothing in this article that discusses this. According to a documentary I saw on G4, many of the developments in the PC industry came about as the King's Quest game series needed them: advances in graphics, for instance. Could someone please add this type of information? --Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 23:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Unofficial games
Is it really necessary to list all those unofficial games? I can see why TSL and the VGA remakes of KQ I-III are there but what about "King's Quest 2 ¼: Breast Intentions" or "King's Quest ZZT" etc? --KFP (talk | contribs) 18:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, as no one has commented, I'll just remove them. --KFP (talk | contribs) 23:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added them backin this time with links.Splintercell007 02:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Peasant's Quest
Maybe it's not essential, but this page might warrant a mention of Homestarrunner.com's parody of King's Quest (known as Peasant's Quest). I'm not going to make the change myself, but I'm just bringing it to your attention.Peasant's Quest features many obvious references to King's Quest (particularly the text parser).

Kings Quest Collection Compilation
This thing is a rip off. The games are made "XP Compatible" simply because they are packaged with a launcher that opens them in DOSbox. Also, to fit all the games on one CD, the KQ7 music has been compressed into midis and I think a bit is missing from KQ5 and 6. As a result, the KQ7 music sounds tinny and like it is from 1988. Which is a pity because the music is one of the high points of the game.

The final bad thing about it is that game does not remove the copyright protection from KQ4 (which asks gamers what word is located on a certain page of the manual). This wouldn't be too much of a problem if the game included the KQ4 manual, but it doesn't. The lack of original manuals means that KQ3 is impossible to finish without using a walkthrough for the spell creation part of the game.


 * I'm pretty sure that KQ7 always used a midi soundtrack. There is no compression involved.Splintercell007 (talk) 20:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Heads up on The Silver Lining
http://kotaku.com/5529809/the-sequel-they-had-no-right-to-make--now-has-a-surprise-twist DanTheShrew (talk) 22:24, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Fan-created episodes
Are the fan-created episodes notable enough for mention, either here or at a separate article? My concern is that a new article has been created, King's Quest (fan games), but it's lacking reliable secondary sources. —C.Fred (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If there are independant secondary sources commenting on them, then yes. 陣 内 Jinnai 21:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality
The 'description' section is tagged as having disputed neutrality, but I don't see any current discussion about its neutrality on this page. Can anyone explain what the dispute is? --Mors Martell (talk) 21:40, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If no one can provide a rationale for the neutrality tag, it should be removed. --Mors Martell (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see neutrality problems, but I see a lack of real-word impact of the series, importance to the industry, influence in other games. It doesn't explain why they stopped making games in 1998. It doesn't mention that the rights are currently owned by Activision (it can be sourced to the first reference of the article).


 * There is advice in WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2012 (UTC)