Talk:King Alfred's Tower/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Godot13 (talk · contribs) 06:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Good article criteria
Clearly written, good prose; reliable sources (websites and published books) with inline citations; good overview with appropriate detail; neutral; no apparent edit conflicts (stable); appropriate use of images; no apparent copyright violation.

Minor comments/suggestions
Add citations to
 * (in History) – “The tower was designed in 1765 by Henry Flitcroft, the notable 18th century Palladian architect” and “Building began in 1769 or early 1770, and was completed in 1772 at an estimated cost of between £5,000 and £6,000.”
 * (in Architecture) – one or two in the first paragraph.

This is my first GAR, if I've made any errors or done this incorrectly, please let me know.--Godot13 (talk) 06:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've added a few references but in the process found one paragraph and part of another were copyvios from http://www.alfredstower.info/. Although there is a note on the talk page allowing this I still think it is better to to copy text word for word. I want to check further and will do this when I get back from work.&mdash; Rod talk 07:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I've now checked and there is just one sentence which is the same as the source site, because of the note on the talk page and the additional material I think this is OK. However it was done in 2007 and I think this was before the OTRS system was introduced. It might be worth asking at Copyright problems for more expert advice.&mdash; Rod talk 19:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As it is your first GAR it might be worth asking at GAN for a second opinion as my other GA nominations normally have more comments and questions (particularly about prose).&mdash; Rod talk 19:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I can do that, if you want. Just ping me if you agree. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:05, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Prose

 * You should probably add that the tower is also known as Stourton Tower.
 * Done&mdash; Rod talk 19:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The source for the Christopher Hussey quote should probably appear in the references. (unless it is covered by the Holt citation directly above it).
 * Per Citing sources, it should have a footnote and/or link to the source. (BTW, Country Living should be italicized as a magazine title). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I've italicised & added a citation but I'm unab;l;e to find a copy to give the title of the article or volume number.&mdash; Rod talk 19:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The automatic metric/imperial measurement conversion is creating a grammatical problem in some instances where the measurement word should be singular. For example "28 miles (45.1 km) footpath" should read "28 mile (45.1 km) footpath" or "300 kilograms (47 st) stone" should be "300 kilogram (47 st) stone".
 * I've changed some of these but may have missed one or two.&mdash; Rod talk 19:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Last comments
The article looks good. I've done some very minor copy-editing. Two questions:
 * Ref#11 is the source for the top 10 meters of the building sustaining damage by an aircraft impact. Is there a source for the specific type of plane which you mention in the article?
 * I've added a couple of refs. It's also detailed on this forum but I don't think I can use that as a reliable source.&mdash; Rod talk 07:55, 26 May 2014 (UTC)


 * To clairfy - is the inscription you quote at the very end the same one mentioned in the paragrpah above it, or is this different?--Godot13 (talk) 22:19, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes that text is over the door.&mdash; Rod talk 07:55, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Third party comments

 * Hi there! Godot mentioned this review to me (you can see my reply there) and I've been having a little look. One thing is sticking out at me: you don't actually define the subject in the lede. It may be redundant, but you should clearly state that it is a tower, or a tower built as a folly, or whatever. See WP:LEDE, particularly "[A lead] should define the topic..." — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks - added to lead.&mdash; Rod talk 19:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Pass--Godot13 (talk) 08:25, 26 May 2014 (UTC)