Talk:King crab

Article Works Factually but Is Not Written Like A Natural Article
Its more like a list of facts. Correct and cited but not written in a real article format.

Also-- one side point. The leg span of the larger king crabs is really something. Would add interest to the article especially in the opening sentence.

69.171.160.245 (talk) 04:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixes
this thing is a total mess, i can't follow it, and the picture box is too big.

Therefore, I have rewritten it. Stemonitis 13:49, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

this article needs a lot of work. the references to stone crabs is ambiguous. its also very very shy on details and could perhaps use some information on catching king crabs.

Missing information
Missing key factual information (notably quantification of size for a creature that is notable for its size), and then refers to the relative size of the varieties of king crab. Halsteadk 22:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Weights and/or sizes are now present for the species which are discussed in depth. --Stemonitis 10:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Picture
This picture in the upper right corner needs to be replaced. This is not representative of the appearance of king crabs. The one with the woman holding the crab is the real deal. Unschool 19:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Two different species. Both are King Crabs, even though they look different. -- Moondigger 23:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm. That certainly makes sense.  But I don't believe that the one with all the protrusions is commercially harvested, is it?  Might be wise to draw that distinction for those whose only contact comes at Red Lobster. Unschool 04:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You know, that must be the record for the longest time between a question I've asked and the reply. 379 days. That's Wikipedia.  :-) Unschool 04:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I saw "14 May" and thought two weeks was too long for the question to go without a reply... I didn't catch that it was actually a year and two weeks. :) -- Moondigger 18:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Stone Crabs?
Stemonitis, it's obvious, looking at your user page, that you know a thing or two thousand about crabs. But please help me out here and give a citation on this "stone crab" thing. I worked in the king crab industry for four years, both processing and fishing (more than twenty years ago, admitedly), and never heard this term then or since. And when you say " . . . are called stone crabs by some", you really are (unintentionally, I'm sure) employing weasel words. If you had said that in the article itself, I'd have to delete it. But anyway, could you just give some citations that support the stone crabs thing? Unschool 19:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Replied on my talk page --Stemonitis 06:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup - Size!!
The article refers to these creatures having a "large size", but nowhere does it give any quantitative size information! Sorry, but it is this lack of key information that gives Wikipedia a poor image and makes it very unreliable as a source for people to use for research. So I shall have to go elsewhere to find out how big a king crab is! Halsteadk 22:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's worse than that - elsewhere there are references to "largest" and "significantly smaller" - relative to other types of king crabs, which is nowhere quantified. Tagged with "cleanup" Halsteadk 22:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair points, to be sure. From personal experience, I would point to the photo with the woman holding the crab.  It's not a scientific description of size, but it is accurate and representative.  [I am less impressed with the two other photos of the spiny-looking crabs; in four years of working the king crab (and tanner crab and opilio, bka "snow crab") harvest, I never saw anything resembling those.]  Unschool 22:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I have added a couple of figures for two species. I couldn't find any measurements for L. couesi. The numbers aren't really directly comparable (one is an average, the other a maximum), but it gives an idea. I hope this is enough to warrant my removal of the cleanup tag. --Stemonitis 16:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing this Stemonitis but I think as the article keeps referring to size rather than weight, this really needs to be added. Halsteadk 20:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * But surely weight is a measure of size — size need not refer solely to lengths. The article makes no reference to "shorter" or "longer". --Stemonitis 20:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair comment, and there is the photo of the person holding one for scale. I still feel that there is key missing info but I'm happy to leave the cleanup tag off, and thanks for adding something quantitative at all! Cheers, Halsteadk 10:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll keep my eyes open for any better measurements. At the very least, minimum landing sizes must be available for such commercially significant species. --Stemonitis 10:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are minimum specs mandated by the Alaska Department of Fish and Game; taking undersize crab can cost a ship more in fines than they take in. But these specs only refer to the width of the head (body), not the weight, nor the distance from leg tip to leg tip. Unschool 04:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Crab Like?
I heard that King Crabs and this article kind of confirms that. Could someone smarter then my self maybe include more information about this and perhaps include a different name for them.Mantion (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain the problem, please? --Stemonitis (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I think he means that if the article refers to King Crabs as "crab-like", that raises an issue nowhere addressed. If they are not "true" crabs, why not, and what are they?

I'm no expert, but I believe the "king" crab is not also known as a "stone" crab, but as a "snow" crab. The definition of "stone" crab has them too far south. We eat them in Florida. The shell is far harder than what is called the "snow" crab down here. The so-called "snow" crab resembles what we used to call a "king" crab years ago in New England markets. I'd say king crab and snow crab are different words for the same thing, but not stone crab. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tzurinskas (talk • contribs) 16:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You're talking about the Florida stone crab, which is indeed different. That doesn't mean that other people don't call lithodid crustaceans "stone crabs", however. Snow crab, is usually used for Chionoecetes opilio, but could well also be used for different taxa. This also demonstrates why scientific names are so useful. --Stemonitis (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation
The horseshoe crab was formerly known as the "king crab" but there is no mention of this in the entry or the entry navigation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.79.239 (talk) 16:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

"Although formerly classified among the hermit crabs in the superfamily Paguroidea, king crabs are now placed in a separate superfamily, Lithodoidea."
My knowledge of Decapoda is small, so I was wondering why there are all these genuses and species of animals without the "supposed" superfamily Lithodoidea. Looking on google books, I am still unclear. Should Lithodoidea be a redirect to this page?


 * Lithodoidea also contains Hapalogastridae, so is not the same taxon and should not redirect here. --Stemonitis (talk) 16:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Bad picture
That picture in the info box is awful. If that's a king crab, it's not like any I ever fished. 50.193.171.70 (talk) 15:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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