Talk:King of the Ring

2008 SPOILER WARNING
Do not post spoilers from the upcoming RAW in England. If the King of the Ring is going to happen next week, we must wait until it is offically announced. Michaelclarkc (talk) 23:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They are not spoilers, it already aired in England. Thus, not a spoiler, plus it is only a 3 hour difference, does not make such a difference.--~ S  R  S ~ 22:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It's been taped in England, but it doesn't air until 2am. Once WWE has announced it, then it can added to this article. Michaelclarkc (talk) 23:28, 14 April 14th 2008 (UTC)
 * Which will be in 3 hours, dude chilax, it does not make a big difference.--~ S R  S ~ 22:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm just following Wikipedia's rules. WWE RAW has not aired anywhere in the world yet and WWE has not made the official announcment, therefore it cannot be added yet. That's the rule. When it airs later on in the UK & USA, then yes, it can be added. Michaelclarkc (talk) 23:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It was confirmed. Not telling my name. 8:17, 14 April 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.63.13 (talk)

That's cool. As I said in my previous comment, we have to obey Wikipedia's rules and not post anything that has not been confirmed by WWE either by WWE.com or by television broadcast. Also, why are there brackets already set up in the article for the 2008 King of the Ring? We don't know how many people are going to be in the tournament yet or for that matter, who will be in it. Michaelclarkc (talk) 02:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Can we add that these 8 superstars are in? Jericho, Umaga, HBK, CM Punk, Batista, Big Show, Triple H, MVP. (CenaKnows450Splash (talk) 02:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC))

I wouldn't, just yet. Even though their pictures appear on the King of the Ring preview on WWE.com, they are not confirmed to be in the tournament. Even if they are in, we don't know who is facing who. It's best to wait for WWE to make the official announcement regarding the entrants. Michaelclarkc (talk) 03:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if this side is considered a reliable source, but it states that the 8 WWE Superstars who appear in the KOR graphic on wwe.com are not the official entrants in the tournament. I'm bringing this up because since the tournaments announcment, these 8 wrestlers (Jericho, Umaga, Michaels, HHH, Umaga, MVP, Big Show & CM Punk) have appeared in the article as "offical" participants. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/73218/WWE-News:-King-of-the-Ring-Update,-Lita%5C%5Cs-Band,-Kozlov,-More.htm Michaelclarkc (talk) 18:17, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They aren't because the official preview from WWE, states that Finlay and Kennedy will be involved, but its an 8 man tournament, and that's too many, so we need to wait for official confirmation.~ S R  S ~ 19:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Page Protection
Can we get this page protected from unregistered users. I've just had to remove names from the 2008 Tournament brackets. One was Terry Funk. This looks like the work of vandals (with no brains). Michaelclarkc (talk) 03:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If there is more disruption later, then we can protect it, but if we do it now, they will say that their is not enough info to justify it.--~ S R  S ~ 02:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

It has just happened again. Someone (possibly the same person who did it earlier) had added the likes of Sabu, Vader, Gangrel, Terry Funk, Vader, Samoa Joe & Sting in to the brackets. Michaelclarkc (talk) 03:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I see it, I requested protection.--~ S R  S ~ 02:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The Times
Hi there. I added the times you see for the 2008 King of the Ring. I didn't think about timing the matches until after the second quarterfinal ended. Everytime I added the times to the brackets, however, I got this message that what I wrote confronted with extra text that was added before I submitted my time, and the text field was instantly reverted to what was written before, fully deleting what I had submitted! I had to do this twice for each bracket because of this!

I tried to time the matches as accurately as I could, though.

CasanovaUnlimited (talk) 02:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm downloading the show now, and will check the time difference from bell to bell on each match. Maxwell7985 (talk) 04:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. CasanovaUnlimited (talk) 04:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Somebody sort this out
The brackets are ridiculously confusing. Some have 'pin' or 'sub' as indicating that's how the person LOST, and some have it as how he WON. Some don't even HAVE the results in the bracket.
 * What one earth are you talking about? Everything is in the right spot. Pin/Sub/DQ goes in the top box no matter who won, and the time goes in the bottom no matter who won. The winner of the match is bolded in each round. iMat  thew   20  08  10:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * By that stance, everyone in the top bracket has won and everyone in the bottom bracket has lost. That is not the case. Pin/Sub/DQ goes next to the bracket of the winner, and the time goes next to the loser. This is a system used by all sports, and you don't see the person in the top bracket as the victor in every football, baseball, basketball, hockey, and socker results. Why should this be an exception? CasanovaUnlimited (talk) 04:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, the person who is in bold and who, funnily enough, is in the next bracket has won, the person who is in plain text and who doesn't proceed lost. That's simple. You could easily argue that Pin/Sub/DQ should go next to the person that loses because they were the ones that were pinned/submitted/disqualified and the time next to how long it took their opponent, the winner to do it in. Either way, it looks more uniform when done one way rather than swapping each match. Also, it's the way it has been done for all the other tournaments. Tony2Times (talk) 15:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

In the 2008 bracket it shows that Finlay beat The Great Khali by count-out while he actually won by disqualification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.27.90 (talk) 19:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Who ever created this page left out the most important event at king of the ring and that was the birth of '''Austin 3:16. Says I just kicked your a@@!''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkleinbe (talk • contribs) 13:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

PPV
King of the ring is no longer a pay-per-view. It has been for the last few yars in an episode of a weekly show with the final in a pay-per-view. Bam123456789 (talk) 19:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Umm ok? What's your point here?-- ~    S    R    S    ~   20:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Seperate PPV/Tournament articles?
Just a thought, its a tad confusing having them both being the same thing now. The King of the Ring PPV and the King of the Ring Tournament are completely different things. Luther Hull (talk) 18:11, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. They were the same. Eventually all of the PPV's will get their own article though.  TJ   Spyke   20:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

History
Also Triple H, took "King" as his new moniker, The King of Kings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.221.95.234 (talk) 19:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Pre PPV events
It seems confusing that the entire brackets of early events are included on the main page. Would it make sense to split each tournament out to it's own page, in the way that the pay-per-views and the post PPV events have? Jxan3000 (talk) 22:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

King of Wrestling Gimmick
I think there needs to be a section explaining this a little better as it can be confusing. The gimmick started with Harley Race when he won the tournament, but Haku was given the crown by Bobby Heenan when Race was injured. Then Jim Duggan defeated Haku for the crown and eventually Randy Savage defeated Jim Duggan for it. It's confusing due to the fact that during this time there were other winners of the King of the Ring Tournaments that didn't take on the gimmick. TheGary (talk) 17:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

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Add KOTR 2019
It’s confirmed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZebraDX3.1 (talk • contribs) 03:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 8 March 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved, without prejudice to another RM at any time if new evidence is brought up. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 20:52, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

King of the Ring → King and Queen of the Ring – It's already been confirmed this is the new name for the pay per view event, even the article itself acknowledges it - 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:C1BC:97A9:FCEF:50D3 (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The name "King and Queen of the Ring" is already taken. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 16:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It's now changed to "King and Queen of the Ring (2023)" 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:E962:3DBB:707E:DB04 (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've reverted that move; it was requested at WP:RMT but this RM had already been opened. 162 etc. (talk) 18:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Weak support. Seems this is the new "parent topic" for the eponymous event which will take place in 2023 with potentially more to come. I'm "weak" on this though due to there only bring one yet-to-happen event and the lack of evidence of WP:COMMONNAME. Steel1943  (talk) 21:17, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak support for now. Time will tell whether this would need to be preserved or not. Orientls (talk) 18:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)