Talk:King of the Ring/Archive 1

SPOILER WARNING
Do NOT post information about upcoming events on Smackdown, in this case the tournaments return, until the show has aired. In this case we don't even know its returning as a PPV, or that it is officially SmackDown Exclusive. --Mattbwn 11:47 05 Apr 2006 (UTC)Mattbwn

Ok, instead I stated that it was simply a rumour and unconfirmed.--Killswitch Engage 02:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)Killswitch Engage

That's fine. Not to come off strong but in the wake of the Wrestlemania 22 page going nuts in the weeks prior to the cards announcement we've got to be careful not to break kayfabe on the site. Mattbwn 18:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

It's been announced on Smackdown in Canada that the tournament will return and it seems to have been implied that it's Smackdown exclusive. From looking at the PPV schedule it would appear the event itself will not return but it wouldn't be the first time a PPV has been announced and then had its name changed later (Invasion was originally promoted as Fully Loaded). Kiltman67 13:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

While definitely Smackdown exclusive, it would seem that this isn't going to be a PPV at all. I could see them having the finals or semi-finals/finals at Judgement Day, with the winner getting a title shot in the future or something to that effect. The only PPV that I could see them doing away with is The Great American Bash, and since the tournament wouldn't last that long, unless they move judgement day to July I don't see it getting its own PPV.Mattbwn 18:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

WWE.com
If the events of the show are posted on WWE.com, as Orton's loss was, it is alright to post who won, right? 70.111.253.243 13:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. Where I usually wouldn't allow spoilers posted, I've let it go just like Angle's WHC win when that was posted on WWE.com. --Oakster 19:43, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Weirdly enough, I've just checked WWE.com and found they've slightly edited their article now. It's removed any reference of Angle beating Orton and holding on the ankle lock and replaced it with just a short mention of Orton's ankle breaking from an ankle lock. I can't really say what to do about this now. --Oakster 19:51, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

KOTR Before 1993
Are we sure the tournaments before 1993 were King of the Ring tournaments? WWE officially recognizes 1993 as the first ever King of the Ring tournament. RealFerrari 11:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

KOTR exclusive to SmackDown?
How can it be said that the tournament is exclusive to the SmackDown! brand? There is no evidence pointing to this, other than the fact it was a pitiful attempt to boost ratings on one show. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.31.12.67 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC).
 * The 2006 tournmanet was only on the SmackDown brand, that's why. TJ Spyke 23:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

It hardly determines it as an exclusive,does it? We can't say it is going to be on SmackDown! next year or if it will return at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.244.43 (talk • contribs)
 * Maybe, but as of right now it is a SD exclusive tournament. TJ Spyke 22:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

KOTR Title
I noticed an addition to the trivia section about Mabel winning the KOTR and winning a title. Why take it down?--Captain Capatilism 20:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Ahem I do realise I typo'ed my own name,tyvm!--Captain Capatilism 20:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a source for that? TJ Spyke 23:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes I can, a number of pictures plus some comments can be found on Reggie Parks site. Hopefully it is enough, I mean to be added to the trivia section. http://www.midwestwrestling.com/championshipbelts/kotr.htm --Captain Capatilism 16:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The belt was custom made for Mable. He purchased the belt for himself. It was not a belt ordered by WWF, nor is it an official title belt. This was simply something Mable had made for himself for personal use. Feel free to ask Reggie about it. Therefore, the trivia section stating that 1995 was the only year a belt was awarded is false and should be removed from the page. --PT Sandman 23:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Main Event KOTR 2001 issue
Can someone please explain to me why the simple statement to the mainevent is Austin pinned Benoit after hitting him with the WWF Title belt? Because that simly did not happen unless anyone can provide a soruce or link to prove this.The ending was that Benoit hit a back suplex on Jericho off the top rope and Austin then attempted to pin him.That is the final ending no question about it.If someone just keeps changing to what it is now for fun or no reason I would like to know.Debate on this would be apperciated. Thanks.....ACTUALLY NEVERMIND there was an error as it orignally stated that Austin hit Benoit with the title.Sorry for the inconvience but keep this message just incase someone decides to change it to just that.~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.91.94.125 (talk) 02:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Do YOU have proof to support your claim? TJ Spyke 02:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Of coruse I just recently bought the King of the Ring 2001 for VHS.The mainevent clearly showed that Austin pinned Benoit after Benoit injured himself.Once the count was finished Austin WAS HANDED THE TITLE BELT.Therefore there's no possible way that Austin recovering from an injury on the annouce table from Boker T and the multiple beatings he recieved from Benoit And Jericho could have possibly reached for the title.Hell he was even in the ring at the time.I sure if your inquistive enough to buy that match you'll see my explaination be true.Believe me that was the true ending no doubt.I don't have to backup my reason since Youtube nor does WWE have the video up for any time soon but based on watching it on VHS that was indeed the true ending.If you can debate on this I would welcome it, Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.94.125 (talk • contribs)
 * I haven't watched the PPV, and I don't feel like tracking down the VHS copy just to check this out. I just asked for proof from you since demanded proof that he used the belt. TJ Spyke 22:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Wrestling Classic Tournament
The Wrestling Classic was not, and was never equated with, a King of the Ring tournament. The winner of TWC received a car and a cash prize.--Geoff K. 01:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

TWC '85 Semi-finals and Final
Contrary to the ending noted on this page, I've seen listed on other sources that Tito Santana defeated the Iron Sheik in their semi-final match, and that Don Muraco defeated Santana in the final. Does anyone recall the actual outcome of this tournament, and which would be correct? Quadsixes 21:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * According to prowrestlinghistory.com, Iron Sheik defeated Santana in a semi-final match and Muraco defeated Sheik in the final. TJ Spyke 21:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

1998 King of the Ring
Just watching the Kane vs Austin match on youtube and the King says that if kane were to lose the match he would have to set himself on fire should this be added to the article ? Bencey 17:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't recall that stipulation ever being official. Maybe it was something Kane said he would do and wasn't official. TJ Spyke 21:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

trivia
wouldnt it be obvious to add dat the 2006 KOFTR was the only 1 that wasnt a PPV.Nosaints4life 17:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, did you look at the article before you added that comment? The first 6 KOTR's were not on PPV. It wasn't until the 1993 tournament that it became a PPV. TJ Spyke 19:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

missing match
At king of the ring 2001 the Undertaker had a match with Diamond Dallas Page source. Bencey 10:30, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a match, it was just a brawl between the two after DDP challenged Undertaker to come out. No ref ever came out and there was never an official match. OWW has more details: TJ Spyke 21:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * surely it is notable since he was the first member of the alliance to appear on wwf tv Bencey 16:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * In the DDP and Invasion articles, yes. Not here though since Alliance members had been appearing on TV for a few weeks. TJ Spyke 22:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

KOTR 2007??
is there gonna be a 2007 king of the ring ???Nosaints4life 22:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Unknown, nothing has been announced by WWE. TJ Spyke 00:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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1997 PPV Triple H comments
Does anyone know what the footnote "Helmsley was allowed another spot in the tournament because he pulled a job to mable prior to his match with Ahmed Johnson the previous week that he could be eliminated via disqualification and thus threatened the WWF with legal action;" means? WillE 22:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

King of the Ring as a Championship
Should it be noted that the crown was treated as a Championship that changed hands during more than one of these reigns? Haku carried the crown after Race, lost it to Duggan who lost it to Savage. Then in 1993 Lawler defeated Bret at SummerSlam to become the "Undisputed King of the WWF". Should these people be noted as King of the Ring champions, or Kings of the WWF? Yagobo79 11:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Article Merge
I think this that 1994 and 1995 should be merged into this main King of the Ring article. It does not make sense that 1994 and 1995 have their own detailed articles when all the other 15 years that the tournament was held are simply contained within the main.

Either there should be 17 different articles, or one. The current format is not copasetic. Yagobo79 12:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

1997 King of the Ring WWF Championship Match
Lots of "sidenotes" to this match. I forget exactly how Faarooq became the #1 contender, but I do recall the NOD jumping/attacking Undertaker on Raw in the weeks leading up to the match.

Undertaker was accompanied by his old manager Paul Bearer in this match, because, according the storyline, Undertaker was being blackmailed by Bearer who held a "secret". The secret was Undertaker accidentally burned down his home and apparently killed his parents and brother when he was a child, and that his brother "Kane" was in fact, still alive (all kayfabe). This was revealed on Raw during the summer of 1997 before Kane's debut at Badd Blood.

Faarooq's NOD was streamlined by now, as the unnamed "thugs" and rappers were gone by this point (Faarooq had pubicly "attacked" and "disposed" of them on Raw not long before this event). The ending came after Faarooq was distracted by Crush and Savio Vega arguing outside the ring (Faarooq shouted at them a bit and then turned around and walked right into the Tombstone Piledriver). This is important because it was the genesis of the "Gang Warz" storyline of 1997 -- Faarooq "fired" Savio and Crush from the NOD shortly afterwards feeling that the lack of unity within the group cost him the WWF title. Savio and Crush then went on to form their own gangs -- "Los Boriquas" and "D.O.A." respectively.

Ahmed Johnson's interference at the end of the match signified his heel turn and subsequent entry into the Nation of Domination. Ahmed would join the NOD soon after and was booked into a title match against the Undertaker at In Your House Canadian Stamepde the following month, which did not take place, due to injury (Ahmed was very injury prone during his WWF stint).

Heymanamen (talk) 05:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)