Talk:Kingdom: Legendary War

About Kingdom: Legendary War (is NCT in the line up ?)
Hello,

I'm checking out the Kingdom: Legendary War article for new informations pretty regularly since I'm looking forward to watch the show, and I noticed NCT have been added to the line up (at least, according to the wiki article) The fact is, I don't see this information on the Korean page of Kingdom, and I searched on the whole Internet, there's literally nothing about this. So I was wondering if the NCT in Kingdom thing has been confirmed at all. It would be amazing if it was the case though !

I don't know if it will help or anything to point out this, but I just wanted to know where did this info come from, and if it's real or not, that's all !

Thank you in advance !

77.128.72.86 (talk) 09:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2021
Slfkp (talk) 20:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

changing a grammar

there's have a wrong words and uncorrect grammar Slfkp (talk) 20:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please provide the exact changes you'd like to have someone make. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2021
In the notes section of episode 1, there is an error in the results announcement statement.

It should say "...and the results were announced during the 1st and 2nd episode, which aired on April 1 and April 8, 2021." Jeonginsgf (talk) 03:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source for the announcement dates? If you have one, post it here and re-open the edit request. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:22, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2021
Currently, Ateez's performance for the second round is also TBA. 2601:249:1780:2FE0:6970:82FA:ABD7:6463 (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sennecaster   ( What now? ) 19:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2021
please change IKon and iKon to iKON. write the names of the groups properly. Asdfghjkey (talk) 06:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌. See Talk:IKon/Archive_1. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2021 (2)
Notes Ren0nlyhere (talk) 06:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &#8213; Qwerfjkl  (please use&#32; on reply) 06:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2021
Just wanting to add the points for Round 3 "No Limit" (Part 2) (Episodes 8 & 9)

Order	Artist	   Performance name	   Experts' vote		Self-evaluation points		YouTube views		Global voting		Total Points 1	    iKon	      Classy Savage	        5	462.96	           3	1,041.67	             	TBA		             TBA	    5	 1,504.63 2	  Stray Kids	God's Ddu-Du Ddu-Du	    1	2,083.33	       5	1,041.67		            TBA		             TBA	    2	 3,125.00 3	    BtoB	   Blue Moon (Cinema Ver)	4	578.70	           1	1,562.50		            TBA		             TBA	    3	 2,141.20 4	   Ateez	     Answer: Ode To Joy	    5	462.96	           6	  0.00		                TBA		             TBA	    6	  462.96 5	    SF9	          Move	            2	1,851.85	       2	1,562.50		            TBA		             TBA	    1	 3,414.35 6	  The Boyz	    Monster (Stormborn)	    3	810.19	           3	1,041.67		            TBA		             TBA	    4	 1,851.85 Giki042 (talk) 19:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: and removed most of the similar information which could not be cited to anything but primary sources. This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of "episodes" section
Hi there,

It appears that somebody has removed the “Episodes” section of the “Kingdom: Legendary War” wiki page. Is there some way that somebody could reinstate this, as it was very helpful (the breakdowns of each episode helped explain the rankings and the layout of each episode well) and was even used on similar pages such as “Road to Kingdom” and “Queendom", so I don’t see why it should be deleted. It's an encyclopedia after all, and the chart acted as a great source of information/data from each of the episodes (which also helped to support the page). As for a source, please review the episodes from the actual show, where they break down the points (https://www.viki.com/tv/37746c-kingdom-legendary-war). Apologies for any mistakes in this post, as I am still fairly new to editing on Wikipedia. Thanks in advance!! TheFloatingWorld (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem is that this is not a fansite or a TV guide, and the information was excessively detailed. On Wikipedia, we require (in the vast majority of cases) that material be cited to reliable, secondary sources. These were lacking, and the primary source (the show itself) is not sufficient to justify including such a huge amount of details. This is an encyclopedia ("a summary of knowledge", not "an indiscriminate collection of every possible fact about a subject"), and our purpose is to present a summary, not the whole of the details about the show. WP:RECENTISM is also a concern. Most of this will have no relevance in the long term. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:43, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, I agree with the fact that Wikipedia is indeed not a fansite. The show is still running, so there probably aren't many secondary sources available. Hopefully, after the show is over secondary sources will be released. However, for shows like Kingdom, primary sources are better as they provide raw and accurate information and data, which are especially important for survival shows. Secondary sources are more textual information than analytical. While Wikipedia may be an encyclopedia, other pages for tv shows often include small details, such as episode summaries, air times, contestants, etc (see [|The Bachelor] and Wandavision for examples) so I don't see why Kingdom should not have the same. To many others, Wikipedia is a source for all information, not just as an encyclopedia necessarily. They come to Wikipedia to find details on small matters, so I believe it is fair that this chart can be included. Encyclopedias have been known to include charts, so I don't see why Wikipedia can not, even though the chart is excessive. Fans of Kingdom will also come to this Wikipedia page to find information on the episodes, not just what Kingdom is as Wikipedia is easily and widely accessible. Wikipedia has evolved from being a simple encyclopedia. Additionally, Wikipedia may also not be intended for statistics, but many other pages still use statistics or excessive charts without any complaints, such as [|The Voice], Survivor, [|the Masked Singer] and even NASCAR races. As I mentioned above, this same chart format has been used on other pages (like Queendom and Road to Kingdom) without any complaints so it's safe to assume it probably isn't really causing harm to anybody. If this is still an issue, would it be possible that you could somehow forward the information on the chart to me so that I would be able to post it on other websites better suited for detailed charts? Though it would be best for the chart and its information to be reinstated onto the page as Wikipedia is widely accessible and well-known as compared to other websites. TheFloatingWorld (talk) 00:55, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The information from the charts is available in the page history (you can just click on the date and time of the relevant revision, ex. ). I can't comment as to the other pages, although I note that each might have a different context, and that some of those tables or charts might actually also be excessive. This is a constant work in progress, and we solve issues as we notice them. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please take part in the discussion, here. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:14, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2021
Final scores:

1위 스키즈 38873.040 2위 더보이즈 23963.497 3위 에이티즈 21298.106 4위 비투비 20277.121 5위 아이콘 13875.888 6위 sf9 12712.348

Figure out each aspect of the score yourself since you won’t let anyone edit Hamsin5 (talk) 14:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)