Talk:Kingdom Hearts χ

Plot section
The plot section has a lot of line-for-line script regurgitation, and definitely needs to be tightened up.204.11.142.106 (talk) 14:12, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Unchained χ is Chapter 9?
How? And why? The original χ (chapter 8) was only released in Japan. So why is Unchained χ, which is an worldwide expanded port for mobile devices, chapter 9? MrWii000 (talk) 04:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Excessively detailed plot summary
That plot summary is far too long for a comfortable reading experience for all but the most dedicated Kingdom Hearts fans. Could someone familiar with the plot make the summary more concise and reduce it to the general length of, say, the other KH game articles? I've set up a notice in the meantime. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 00:47, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Believe me, I'd love to pare it down, but doing so becomes complicated:


 * Being a mobile game, new story content is constantly being added, so with no defined endpoint, it's harder to judge what is and isn't a notable detail in the grand scheme.
 * Until KH3 comes out, it's not clear which parts are relevant to it that would need to be included.
 * The narrative is technically split between three different games (original χ, Unchained/Union, and Back Cover), so that makes it even harder to consolidate.
 * I'll do what I can, but I foresee this one being in a rough state for a while until the most relevant points can be more clearly defined. EDIT: I've managed to get the original game's summary down to less than 700 words, within the recommended guidelines. The Unchained/Union section is at about 400, leaving plenty of space for any other major plot developments going forward. -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 14:39, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Character section
While rewriting the main character list, I've been considering the possibility of moving the Kingdom Hearts χ characters to this page under the rationale that the majority of characters don't really have that much notability beyond this game, which is more of a supplemental experience in the series. My idea is that we structure it like the Tales series articles, with bullet lists similar (if not identical) to how they're currently written on the character list. The Japanese names of the characters are already on this page. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose That is a very crystal-balling outlook. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 13:45, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure I follow. Are you saying the rationale I gave appears to be under the assumption/prediction that these characters will not have any major importance to the rest of the series in the future? Because the point I'm trying to make is that, at the present, their roles are confined to this one game and other media related to the title.
 * There's also another reason I forgot to add, and that's to keep the character list from getting too much bigger than it already is. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 13:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * These Kingdom Hearts χ characters have every possibility of being in future games. you should not rule that factor out. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 14:08, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Just because they might appear in III or a another sequel, I don't think it is valid. I would suggest using the character lists from the Tales of franchise that use different characters in every game.Tintor2 (talk) 15:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think these characters have the notability for a separate article. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 16:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Union X as the Ninth Installment?
How is Union X the ninth installment when it's clearly an updated version of the previous KH X game from browsers just like how Re: Chain of Memories and Re: Coded are updated versions of the previous original games?--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 00:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Aside from the fact that several mechanics were changed, the story of Unchained/Union is actually a sequel to X, whereas Re:COM and Re:Coded were still telling the same story. Unchained/Union X only starts the same, but halfway through the story of the original, it's revealed that all of X has already happened in the past and you're reliving a simulation of X's events, which start to change after that revelation. You never actually play through the back half of X's events in Unchained/Union; they're only alluded to in flashbacks. -- 50.4.172.142 (talk) 02:54, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The IP is correct. Additionally, Square Enix themselves indicate X as a separate game from Unchained/Union X. Hence, each is a different entry in the series. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

The official Japanese KH website has a timeline which includes every game released up to KHIII; here, Union χ is not shown as a distinct entry from KHχ. Their list only uses Union χ (just like we only use Re:coded for most contexts), showing the official position is that Union χ counts as a remake rather than a sequel. MrWii000 (talk) 05:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

How to handle the inclusion of Dark Road
Since the game is out now, it's become clear that Union χ Dark Road is essentially two separate games in one, with a title selection menu at the start similar to the HD collections, and distinct gameplay mechanics between both Union χ and Dark Road that are not influenced by the other the way Union was by Unchained. Should we split Dark Road into its own article to reflect that? Or should we keep it here and make the distinctions clearer than they are now? User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Try setting it up like Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue, which is set up like a compilation it has sections for everything. Until this article is bursting with reliable sources and excellent information, we should build this one up and only split when we can no longer maintain summary style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Judgesurreal777 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Newer Changes added
Story line never had foretellers Skuld name off changed to Unknown name revealed after Dark Road ends when a Dematerialized Hope Appears. Uncrossed Dark Road Newer Union Gen X..... Candia21 (talk) 18:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That's all speculation. Wait until any of this is actually confirmed in a game. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

When your capable of seeing the bigger picture then it's pretty much confirmed. Candia21 (talk) 08:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not how Wikipedia works. We add things based on what is actually said, not based on original research. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:38, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Splitting out Kingdom Hearts Dark Road
I propose that Kingdom Hearts Dark Road be split into its own article. It is its own game with a unique narrative that is just attached to the wider Kingdom Hearts χ package. It has gotten its own reviews and additional coverage both prelease  and post-release. (Oinkers42) (talk) 03:41, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm neutral on this, I'd have to see an actual fleshed-out draft that wasn't redundant. There's also the fact that Dark Road was sort of like an expansion pack rather than a separate game. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It was part of the same app, yes, but it also has totally different gameplay (which no one has done a write-up on yet) and different reviews as presented above. I think it could be split off, though it might be a little small. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 14:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm seconding ZXC that I'd like to see a draft first before signing off on a split. I get that they're different but 1) are they different enough, and 2) would it improve either article to be split vs. holding relevant information together in a single page to avoid redundancy/improve comprehension? Axem Titanium (talk) 20:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)