Talk:Kirk Cousins

Possible Records Error?
I'm not a big editor, but those numbers in the college records seem a little off. It might not be a bad idea to look into it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.11.33.205 (talk) 07:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2018
Kirk Cousins trade to AZ Cardinals? What is the source? 2602:304:B2C6:99F0:3520:E4D9:40B3:780B (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌. No source for this at all. EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:35, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2018
He was drafted by the redskins and he is a free agent. 2601:205:8202:40C0:D599:9D5C:50FD:7C3F (talk) 04:40, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  General Ization Talk  04:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Referenced expert comments are allowed in Wikipedia - that is the point of wikipedia
Someone deleted a reference I added to a current article regarding Cousins, summarizing his future with the Washington football team. To wit, he has no future with Washington, based on the referenced opinion. The referenced source was the Washington Post newspaper, a well known source of expert opinion. Wikipedia specifically allows expert opinion regarding future events that are almost certain to occur. Rhetorically, what is the point of Wikipedia if comments with referenced source can not be added? Please undo the vandalism and include the referenced comment or explain why the Washington Post is such a poor source to reference. Talking about future events is not speculation when expert opinion indicates they will almost certainly occur. Suggest the deletionist read the guidelines regarding speculation more closely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8806:2306:8900:D68:17EC:F32D:552C (talk) 04:12, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not that the source was unreliable or false, it's just that putting this info is unneeded. You could put this on every player's article, as they won't always be employed by them. And even if it was added, it would just be removed next month anyway, so there is no longterm significance to doing this. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:45, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not every player is in the situation where expert authors, like the one referenced, feel a need to indicate that the player's departure is imminent. To say that every player gets an article about their departure written is not a statement based on fact.  You are correct that the situation of Kirk Cousins will change in a month.  Since when are facts in Wikipedia limited to those which have longterm significance?
 * I suggest you read WP:CRYSTAL. A player being released by a team is never "almost certain" by Wikipedia standards. What is almost certain to happen is the 2018 NFL season, the 2020 Summer Olympics, and the United States presidential election, 2020. As Dissident says, it's completely unneeded. Especially in the lead of the article. Lizard  (talk) 06:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Your suggestion to read WP:CRYSTAL is simply an insult, an ad hominem attack, as my comment above references its substance. Not sure where you get your definition of "almost certain."  The net effect of your deletionist vandalism is to reduce the quality of the article.  You have succeeded in relegating the current situation of the player to the Wikipedia history of the article, the talk page and those publications such as the Washington Post, that are not as destructive as yourself.
 * My definition of "almost certain" comes directly from WP:CRYSTAL. Although the text in question doesn't explicitly violate WP:CRYSTAL, it's still largely unwarranted. Wikipedia is not a newspaper; its purpose isn't to provide daily or even weekly updates on players' situations (much less, an outsider's interpretation of a player's situation). When he's released—if he's released—the page will be updated accordingly. And please read WP:NOTVAND. Lizard  (talk) 05:37, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Pretty much this. He's officially on the Redskins roster until March 14, and then he either is or he isn't. No need to put this info in before that. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 09:03, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2018
Kirk Cousins is now the QB for the Minnesota Vikings, not the Washington Redskins. Gandalfjrjr (talk) 16:02, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Not done. Rumors. And free agency doesn't start until tomorrow. Lizard  (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2018
Kirk Cousins signed with the Minnesota Vikings, he is not a Washington Redksin anymore Dklug88 (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * See above. Lizard  (talk) 16:09, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Great catch! 66.128.249.44 (talk) 04:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2018
Need to change picture. Ausgod0714 (talk) 16:32, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If a better image that follows our image use policy becomes available, it can be changed. Until then, we're stuck with what we have. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 16:39, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Decent resolution, waiste-up, face clearly visible. Not sure what else you could want. Lizard  (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Assuming you are asking for a Vikings-related one, you are going to have to wait until OTA's for them (as any promotional picture before then will not be free-use). If you are asking for a non-team specific general one, then find one that is free-use and an improvement over the current one and it will done. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:21, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2019
Cousins married Julie Hampton on June 28, 2014, in Atlanta, Georgia.[105] He is a Christian.[106] During his time with the Redskins, Cousins earned the nickname "Captain Kirk" from the media for his presence as a leader, referencing the Star Trek character.[107] REMOVE: He also appeared in several commercials with Easterns Motors, a D.C. used car dealership, with former Redskin teammates Josh Norman and Ryan Kerrigan.[108][109][110] REPLACE WITH: Kirk and Julie have two sons, Cooper born in 2017 and Turner in 2019. They currently split their time between Minnesota, W. Michigan and Georgia. The Cousins' family supports several charitable causes through the Julie and Kirk Cousins Foundation, including International Justice Mission, Urban HomeWorks and Boys and Girls Clubs of America. (source: kirkcousins.org)

REMOVE main photo (from 2016) and REPLACE with: https://www.vikings.com/photos/minnesota-vikings-travel-to-dallas-cowboys-2019#bfcddf25-818c-4426-8377-cfb7475e0285 ADD photo of Kirk in Vikings jersey near 2018/19 overviews: https://www.vikings.com/photos/through-the-lens-vikings-broncos#ea67f625-600a-4626-8bb8-86253940f4ce Skolsports2019 (talk) 18:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Uploading a copyrighted image is .  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:54, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2019
At the bottom of the 2019 section, please chance ‘Monday’s’ to ‘Mondays’ because it looks awful. TundraDog (talk) 02:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅  Eagles   24/7  (C)  16:34, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Can you also, in the last paragraph of (Pro Career Year) 2016, line No. 4; remove after the first word (‘take’) the first ‘in the’ as I think it is a duplicate / editing mistake

As highlighted in capitals in the following as it appears I can not edit it myself: “Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan, who could not TAKE IN the part in the game because of the Falcons appearance in Super Bowl LI” MonkieMillin (talk) 02:02, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅  Eagles   24/7  (C)  02:11, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Lead image
I agree with @ that the existing 2019 picture of Cousins on the field in a Vikings uniform is preferable as the lead image. The 2016 picture that was changed to is 6 years old, of worse quality, and not particularly flattering. There are no specific guidelines on this, but simply seeing more of his face is not a good enough reason to change to it in my opinion. His face is still visible in the newer image, with the added benefit of portraying Cousins performing his profession and position on the field with his current team. His face is otherwise clearly visible in other images in the article. Ved havet ≈ (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I appreciate the input and support. An alternative that I see already in the Wikimedia commons is File:KC081119.jpg. It's not particularly amazing or flattering with his after-practice-hair, but, if someone is dead set on showing his face in the article this is an alternative I wouldn't revert. It's probably best to just seek out a recent picture of the guy that meets the upload criteria for Wikimedia commons. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Guess the guy who said take it to the talk page didn't want to go to the talk page.Hey man im josh (talk) 19:47, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

I personally think the picture from the field is a better alternative based on quality and the benefits I mentioned above, but if there comes a consensus that File:KC081119.jpg is preferred, I'm not gonna drag out the discussion too much.

However, I will remind @ that in disputes, per WP:QUO, it is the one proposing a change that has the responsibility to post their proposal on the talk page. It is wrong to keep making edits and suggest that the one reverting is to post about this on the talk page. As they didn't do so however, I created the section instead, but this responsibility still stands. I therefore suggest that @ reiterate their suggestion regarding File:KC081119.jpg (or whatever other image they suggest we change to) in a comment on this talk page, and after that, @ may confirm whether they agree on this opinion, believe the current image should stay, or have a different suggestion.

Until then, and also per WP:QUO, the 2019 picture from the field has been the status quo for months, and should stay active until this consensus to change has been reached. I will therefore revert @'s change until they have correctly posted their suggestion on this talk page, and a consensus about it has been reached. Ved havet ≈ (talk) 19:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Personally I'm in agreement with you, but it wasn't something I wasn't die on a hill for. Cousins' picture from 2019 where he's in a helmet better represents him as opposed to the post-practice helmetless picture from 2019. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood, and yes, agreed. I do appreciate @'s recent edit adding File:KC081119.jpg to the 2019 season-section instead, it fits better there considering his state and provides a fine variety as per MOS:IRELEV, with the higher quality image of Cousins in a uniform being more appropriate as a lead image. Ved havet ≈ (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Passing percentage.
Passing percentage highlight is wrong, 70.1 should be highlighted as highest 2603:7081:2004:CA3D:718F:546F:1366:9929 (talk) 00:59, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It's not wrong, the 2022 season has a completion percentage of 71.9, making it the highest for now. Hey man im josh (talk) 02:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Marriage location
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I swear in the Netflix show Quarterback (2023), Julie Cousins said that her and Kirk got married in Washington D.C. while he was with the Commanders. The article says Atlanta. Yeah the source is listed and says Atlanta, but I'm unsure because I'm positive Julie Cousins said Washington D.C. The article did say they got engaged there, but not married. I must've misheard something to be honest.

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 * They got engaged in DC and married in the Atlanta area. 73.207.223.96 (talk) 15:18, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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image
@ImAWubbox1984 stop reverting my edits, the image ur using is not good for a main image. cousins' face is no where to be found in ur photo + his legs take up the majority of the image. its an incredibly ugly crop and should not be the lede image. 2600:8800:A59F:2100:BD34:5AFC:DB82:36C2 (talk) 04:11, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2023
Add the following 2 entries to the Minnesota Passing Records at the bottom of the page (1) Most seasons with at least 4,000 yards passing:4 and also (2) Most Consecutive Seasons with at least 4,000 yards passing:3 Source of information: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/career-passing.htm 2601:703:4282:D60:68CC:7005:115E:3734 (talk) 04:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That source, Minnesota Vikings Career Passing Leaders, does not have a mention of these records. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:59, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Siblings
Kirk has two siblings (Kyle and Karalyne), not three. 73.207.223.96 (talk) 15:17, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Kirk cousins is on the falcons
Kirk cousins just got trade to the Atlanta falcons. 2603:6010:553F:5BB9:F5C6:E780:5BDD:A6C8 (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * This will get updated when an official league source confirms it. Red Director (talk) 19:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * He Thanked The Vikings Organization, Enough Proof? 2601:985:280:C070:CD54:BD4C:449D:FFD9 (talk) 16:57, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * He can thank whoever he wants, that just means he's probably not going back. It doesn't mean he's able to sign before 4pm EST today, the point at which free agency actually begins. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2024
Kirk Cousins to the Falcons Hellohiwassup (talk) 21:22, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ❌. We do not update player information based on gossip (see WP:SPORTSTRANS and WP:BLPGOSSIP). Wait for the team to confirm the transaction. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2024
Change him playing for Minnesota Vikings to Atlanta Falcons Emersoncressman (talk) 12:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ❌. We do not update player information based on gossip (see WP:SPORTSTRANS and WP:BLPGOSSIP). Additionally, Cousins cannot be signed until the free agency window begins at 4:00pm EST on March 13th. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2024 (2)
Change team to Falcons 2600:1012:B14E:9B3:E9B2:7A45:C4C6:2D22 (talk) 17:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ❌. We do not update player information based on gossip (see WP:SPORTSTRANS and WP:BLPGOSSIP). Additionally, Cousins cannot be signed until the free agency window begins at 4:00pm EST on March 13th. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2024
jersey number= 12 2600:1700:2B1:D9CF:38E7:9822:651F:DB30 (talk) 00:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 11:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)