Talk:Kishvari

Irredentist concept and Javad Heyat
- LouisAragon (talk) 21:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) What is the relationship between this historic figure from the 15th/16th century and the irredentist notion of "Whole Azerbaijan" from the 20th century? In the image's caption, the term "Azerbaijan" is wikilinked to the phrase "Whole Azerbaijan".
 * 2) According to our sources, Javad Heyat held a pan-Turkist viewpoint and espoused it in his writings. Even if he has been referenced by someone else, I don't think it's acceptable to cite him.


 * The image and the caption appear to have been added by . I hadn't noticed that it links to "Whole Azerbaijan". I've removed it. Regarding Javad Heyat, I don't see anything in the information cited to him that could be influenced by his pan-Turkist viewpoint. Stating that he was born in Qazvin doesn't seem to serve any particular point of view, does it?  —  Golden  talk 07:47, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. "Azerbaijan" in that caption should link to Azerbaijan (Iran) as that's the only region known as such in that time period. I went ahead and added it per WP:BOLD.
 * As for Heyat: I would agree if the claim was made for something very WP:SKYISBLUE-ish and not related to said irredentist negationist/revisionist doctrine. However, given that the same doctrine views Qazvin as part of a historical Turkic Azerbaijan (e.g. Central Asia Meets the Middle East, Taylor & Francis, p. 114), Heyat's view is not relevant IMO. Looking forward to your reponse. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:05, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure. I've removed Heyat. —  Golden  talk 05:32, 5 October 2023 (UTC)