Talk:Kiss and Make Up (Dua Lipa and Blackpink song)

Requested move 26 February 2022

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn  Tree Critter (talk) 00:20, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Kiss and Make Up (Dua Lipa and Blackpink song) → Kiss and Make Up (song) – The only article for a song with this title, per WP:SONGDAB.&#32;Tree Critter (talk) 18:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 20:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * A misleading request, since Let's Kiss and Make Up (song) is best known as "Kiss and Make Up". 162 etc. (talk) 20:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. LOVI  33  03:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Change to Oppose per new comments. LOVI  33  14:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I'll note that Let's Kiss and Make Up (song) was just moved from its previous, stable title Kiss and Make Up (Saint Etienne song) by OP. 162 etc. (talk) 17:22, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose since Let's Kiss and Make Up (song) was also released with this title and the article about that topic says it is better known by this title. Also opposing as a procedural matter since the nominator failed to mention that the other article exists and that they had moved it without discussion a half hour before opening this RM. —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;BarrelProof (talk) 19:29, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose and speedy close by the look of it. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:03, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Can Tree Critter please fix the mess made here
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Let%27s_Kiss_and_Make_Up_%28song%29&type=revision&diff=1074154320&oldid=1061781309 Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 14 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Participants were not convinced that this song was the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for its title. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:29, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

– Due to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.
 * Kiss and Make Up (Dua Lipa and Blackpink song) → Kiss and Make Up
 * Kiss and Make Up → Kiss and Make Up (disambiguation)

Currently, the DAB page for the term "Kiss and Make Up" has 6 entries, with 3 out of 6 having their own articles. One is about the 1934 film Kiss and Make-Up, another is about The Field Mice's 1989 song "Let's Kiss and Make Up" best known for a 1990 cover "Kiss and Make Up" by Saint Etienne, and the last the 2018 Dua Lipa and Blackpink song "Kiss and Make Up".

The film has a different spelling in its title, Kiss and Make-Up. The only other article involving the same title "Kiss and Make Up" is the 1989 song, whose 1990 cover shares the same name. Compared to the latter, Dua Lipa and Blackpink's song clearly demonstrates it is the primary topic, making the "(Dua Lipa and Blackpink song)" disambiguator unneccessary. Going by the pageview comparisons (|Let%27s_Kiss_and_Make_Up_(song) this month and |Let%27s_Kiss_and_Make_Up_(song) all time) it gets more than 32 times more visits, receiving ~97% of the pageviews.

The page for 2018 song establishes long-term significance and notability to a degree that the 1989/1990 song does not reach. The 2018 song has received music certifications in Australia (where it was certified Platinum), Italy, Poland, Portugal, and the UK, and has charted in 35 territories. Meanwhile, the 1989/1990 song has solely one music chart appearance total. Additionally, the article for the 1989/1990 song has 9 references, of which 5 are reviews, which is incomparable to the 84 references that the 2018 song article has. Therefore, the 2018 Dua Lipa and Blackpink song song demonstrates more longstanding notability compared to other similarly named articles, based on page views, coverage on reliable sources, and commercial performance. Flabshoe1 (talk) 16:48, 14 June 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose. The dash in Kiss and Make-Up is not distinguishable enough from a space. Steel1943  (talk) 01:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to add that the article for the film Kiss and Make-Up has solely 3 references, which are 3 reviews, in comparison to the 2018 song's 84 references. Comparing pageviews, the 2018 song also outviews the article for the film as seen |Kiss_and_Make-Up this month and |Kiss_and_Make-Up all time. The 2018 song demonstrates more notability based on page views and coverage by reliable sources as well.
 * Since the name of the film is similar as you say, I propose moving Kiss and Make-Up to "Kiss and Make-Up (film)" while moving Kiss and Make Up (Dua Lipa and Blackpink song) to "Kiss and Make Up" due to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Flabshoe1 (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The dash in Kiss and Make-Up is not distinguishable enough from a space. And also this is a very generic title so any recent entertainment product is never really going to meet both PT criteria. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Having said that, Kiss and Make-Up → Kiss and Make-Up (film) might work as primary redirect. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:50, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm unclear what you mean here. I'm assuming you mean that Kiss and Make-Up should be moved? And if so, where should Kiss and Make-Up target afterwards? Steel1943  (talk) 01:57, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. See previous discussion, and see Let's Kiss and Make Up (song). 162 etc. (talk) 14:09, 15 June 2023 (UTC)