Talk:Kitman

2007-02-7 Automated pywikipediabot message
--CopyToWiktionaryBot 05:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The text about "political correctness" is just POV ramblings. Therefore i remove it.

2012-12-07 Completely Bogus Information
As a Shi'ite Muslim I can say that this information is completely bogus. Kitmaan is more of a loose philosophy than something clearly defined, it is different to Taqiyah. It in essence means to remain silent on that which is unnecessary/ not a necessity to mention, it doesn't imply lying; rather it is prudence - being wise and in some cases waiting for an appropriate time to be vocal on an issue. It also stems from piety, not saying something to offend someone and does not stem from slyness, cunning or politik, an example of which: if a pregnant wife asks her husband "Honey, do I look fat?" he may reply "You look beautiful to me my darling." (This is kitmaan) -- 22:27, 6 December 2012‎ 105.236.78.254


 * Among English-speakers, Czesław Miłosz's definition is almost as important as the original definition... AnonMoos (talk) 06:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Irrelevant, diversionary ending: "Nearly every clash of ideas,...in fifteenth-century Spain."
It may be true that "Nearly every clash of ideas, doctrines, and ideologies are accompanied by some form" of "secrecy, concealment". And it may be true also that there were "Nicodemite who were concealed Christians under the Roman Empire" or "Marranos in fifteenth-century Spain" who practiced "secrecy, concealment". Nevertheless, the alleged behavior of Christians and Marranos is not germane to topic of Islamic jurisprudence or its "science of deception or legal trickery". Likewise, the innuendo---arguably clever---that kitman is used by nonmuslims in "every clash" has no place here.

The offending passage, which is basically just diversionary, "tu quoque" rhetoric, needs to be deleted.

207.168.107.82 (talk) 18:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)