Talk:Kitten/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 02:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Mine! Ping me or post a reminder on my talk page if comments aren't up within seven days. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Etymology
 * This should be expanded or merged with another section per MOS:PARAGRAPHS, which discourages really short paragraphs/sections/subsections like this
 * Agreed, but I fail completely to see what section it could be merged with. The Etymology section also left me the impression it was too long, but what section could it be merged with? Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It isn't "too long" at all right now. I personally would recommend merging it with the next section, making that into "Etymology and development".
 * Yea, I meant too short, just a major typo. :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 12:08, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * "The young of big cats" reads awkwardly
 * Tweaked. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Birth and development
 * "A feline litter usually consists of two to five kittens" needs to be referenced
 * Done. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The reference you used doesn't mention litter count, though :/ Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Some MOS:PARAGRAPHS issues
 * Tweaked, let me know what you think. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Well done :) Snuggums (talk / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * How do kittens lose their baby teeth?
 * Will look into this. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC) Veterinary Medicine has a lot of info on "Milk teeth" and whatnot, but nothing on exactly how they lose them. Guess they lose them the same way we do. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Understandable <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * "The average kitten reaches" → "Kittens generally reach"
 * Done. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Health
 * The mention of potential benefits and no health-risks of neutering males could make readers curious about females: can spaying be beneficial for them as well, or are there any health risks?
 * Given the fact this is what the sources state, I would say yea. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I meant the article should mention whether or not it benefits females; in its current state, a reader might get the impression this only benefits males. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Orphaned kittens
 * I'd combine these paragraphs per MOS:PARAGRAPHS
 * Done. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * References
 * Something's wrong with the URL for Oxford Dictionary
 * Quite right, fixed. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure "WebMD" or "Pet Education" are reliable
 * By looking at the Wikipedia article for WebMD it strikes as me very reliable. Furthermore, I believe the American Medical Association recommends WebMD for self research, you can most likely read more of this on their website. Same goes for Pet Education. That being said, I hardly ever edit animal-related articles so I don't know if they are considered the animal IMDb or something. In any case, I would take them on as reliable as I know they are used extensively on other animal articles on Wikipedia - not that such a fact automatically gives a website reliability. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * "Santa Maria Times" is a newspaper and should therefore be italicized. The reference also definitively says "Adulthood for a cat is reached at one year", not "many consider".
 * Tweaked wording, but refrained from italicizing Santa Maria Times. Why? Because it strikes as one of those things on Wikipedia that's too irrelevant. Know this sounds horrible, but seriously... it's not that big a deal! Also, italicizing Santa Maria Times, but not the other sources in the "online" section would just look so damned stupid! Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * See MOS:ITALICS, which says to italicize names of newspapers. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The "Catchow" reference doesn't mention anything about age
 * Removed. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Overall
 * Well-written?
 * Prose quality: Mostly good
 * Manual of Style compliance: Could be better


 * Verifiable?
 * Reference layout: It would make things easier to access if the online references were all simply contained within the "references" section, and authors should be included when given in references
 * Reliable sources: Unsure about this
 * No original research: Not exactly


 * Broad in coverage?
 * Major aspects: Almost
 * Focused: No excess detail


 * Neutral?: Seems OK


 * Stable?: Looks good


 * Illustrated, if possible, by images?
 * Appropriate licensing: No copyright violations
 * Relevance and captioning: All images are beneficial, but I feel the captions could be more descriptive. For example, why not give the breeds of File:Kitten and partial reflection in mirror.jpg or File:Kitten in Rizal Park, Manila.jpg? It would also help to say what exactly the signs of malnourishment are for File:Black Cat Nala.jpg if including such an image.


 * Pass or Fail?: Placing this on hold for seven days. Good luck! <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:37, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the thorough review. I've run through your comments and made edits accordingly. Let me know if there is anything else. Cheers :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 13:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking through references again; we've got problems. In addition to the above, I find that the reference used on retinas doesn't say anything on when they open their eyes or when their eyesight improves. Same for the reference used for stating cow milk is not good for kittens and the one used for stating how mother's milk is vital. Not a good sign :/. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 16:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing as unsuccessful since nominator says he won't be able to finish in time. I encourage renomination once all text is supported by attributed sources. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 19:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC)