Talk:Klay Thompson/Archive 1

Grammar
"while his younger brother, Trayce is a Major League Baseball player" - missing a comma after "Trayce"
 * Fixed. —DangerousJXD (talk) 06:49, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

'earning the pair were the nickname the "Splash Brothers"' - should remove the word "were"

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2016
Klay scored 37 points in a quarter, rather than 36 which is listed

101.180.75.78 (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It has been corrected. Good spot. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:56, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Brother
"Mychel, played basketball for Pepperdine University and has played in the NBA" - he played in the D-League, he never been played for NBA --Patrickpedia (talk) 13:12, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * He has actually. He played five games for the Cavaliers in 2011–12, see here. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:58, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2017
add 2017 NBA champion to his side bar overview too. homeboy got as many rings as curry does cuh. dont disrespect klay like that bruh 8.17.58.2 (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done —MRD2014 ( T /  C ) 15:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2017
8.17.58.2 (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Izno (talk) 16:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2017
Under the section Career Highlights and awards, there needs to be an achievement added to that section which is "NBA Performance of The Year Award (2017)" Sidnav18 (talk) 23:15, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 23:43, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2018
From the second paragrah, change:

Thompson was again a key contributor in the Warriors' 2017 title, and in the team's return to the NBA Finals for a fourth straight year in 2018.

to:

Thompson was again a key contributor in the Warriors' 2017 title, as well as their 2018 title—the Warriors' third in four years. Scottandwendi (talk) 05:42, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Lead updated accordingly. DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Image on Oakland Library Card
Today, June 9, a new library card was available to Oaklanders, that featured a drawn silhouette of Klay starting to throw the ball. Where do we put this in? I am completely new to editing. Winkapple (talk) 23:21, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2018
Maherismail1 (talk) 02:07, 30 October 2018 (UTC) Add an acheivement, NBA record for most three-pointers made in a game (14)
 * Yes check.svg Done—Bagumba (talk) 03:11, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2018
On October 29, 2018 against the Chicago Bulls, Klay Thompson set the NBA record for three pointers made in a game with 14. Aksseet (talk) 02:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done—Bagumba (talk) 03:11, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2019
Add recent events (2019 NBA Finals) to the 2018-19 Season Section. RealPoroKing (talk) 04:22, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. funplussmart (talk) 04:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Height
He’s 6’7 not 6’6 Jordan blackkid (talk) 03:37, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * He's listed at 6'6" at NBA.com, which is the source we use in the infobox per WP:NBAHEIGHT.—Bagumba (talk) 04:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2020
Klay Thompson is an Uncle to a Person Ray Jafarzadeh who lives in Australia and Ray is 13 years old144.132.4.97 (talk) 12:12, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. Please provide a reliable source that supports this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 00:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2020
{{edit semi-protected|Klay Thompson|answered=yes}

In his personal life section, add: "Thompson has been in a relationship with American actress Laura Harrier since 2018."

I recommend this change because there are many sources online about their relationship. They have both, especially Harrier, shared pictures on vacation and at events. Laura's Wikipedia page has this fact in her personal life section and I thought it would be reasonable and necessary for this fact to also be on Klay's page. Also, the relationship is serious as Laura actually moved from New York City to Los Angeles to live with him. They now share a house. All of this information can be found online and it's a fact that they're dating. Factfanatic1 (talk) 00:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. Please provide a reliable source that supports this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 00:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Here are some sources: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/ https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/klay-thompson-gq-travel-essentials-list-14910738.php https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/everything-you-should-know-about-nba-star-klay-thompsons-girlfriend-laura-harrier.html/ https://sports.yahoo.com/klay-thompson-wears-kimono-japanese-043439640.html https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/ https://www.santacruzsentinel.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/?obref=obinsite https://www.instagram.com/p/B5IyPmCgd2w/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B7PLokThecx/ https://nypost.com/2019/01/08/klay-thompson-spotted-at-golden-globes-party-with-laura-harrier/ Factfanatic1 (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Their is a concern with dating news conflicting with WP:NOTDIARY.—Bagumba (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

How do I establish a consensus? Everyone that knows Klay and Laura knows they’re dating and I thought I provided reliable sources. Factfanatic1 (talk) 18:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Lead bloat
, reverted for similar reasons I reverted you at the Stephen Curry article. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I restored the injury bit to the lead. We can also discuss whether it's best to have that in the lead. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:49, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

African-American
The article says nowhere at all that Thompson is "black" or "African-American". Per WP:EGRS and WP:CATV, we need a reliable secondary source supporting PROSE in the article which supports the categories, or we cannot retain the categories as added by. Elizium23 (talk) 04:15, 30 January 2021 (UTC)


 * He's clearly described as the American son of a Afro-Bahamian American immigrant. natemup (talk) 05:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Catholic
Claim and source was added concerning Klay's Catholicism, which was thereafter reverted without explanation. I undid the reversion, have had multiple discussions on talk pages, and am now attempting avoiding the 3RR rule by posting this discussion. Another user has already nearly broken the rule today by reverting the edits again, claiming that because the source does not quote Klay, it can't be used.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/watchinggod/2018/05/what-the-golden-state-warriors-can-teach-us-about-being-christian-in-a-post-christian-america/ natemup (talk) 15:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * First of all, you also almost broke the rule so stop singling me out. Furhermore, WP:CAT/R quite clearly says that Categories regarding religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question (see WP:BLPCAT), either through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion. If a source supporting the highlighted part of WP:EGRS exists then show it here, because the source that you insist on using simply says Klay Thompson is Catholic., which does not justify anything. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)


 * While I understand your point, that policy does not say the source itself has to be the person or the action. It would seem that the source can merely represent the fact that the belief or action is present. The claim is being made that Klay is Catholic, which (given that Patheos is a quality source) indicates that Klay has in fact claim publicly to be Catholic. To what other cause can we attribute a quality source making such a claim about a celebrity's religion? Is this not a source of religion info for notable people all over Wikipedia? natemup (talk) 14:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As stated above, WP:CAT/R does say ... through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion.—Bagumba (talk) 14:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The guideline quite clearly says that he must self-identify with being Catholic, which means that the source must support the claim. The source that you imply on using does not support it since there is no citation by Thompson or any other proof where he would say "I am Catholic". Searching on Google does not support it either, because almost all of the sources there simply say that he attended a Catholic school, which is not the same as being Catholic. You can attend a religious school, but not affiliate yourself with any religion. Are you here to discuss the matter or are you just WP:NOTGETTINGIT. – Sabbatino (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * This USA Today article says that Thompson was "raised in a Catholic household". I suspect that the author did confirm that much, at least, based on Thompson's quotes in the article about playing under Mark Jackson. That's still not the same as saying Thompson is a Catholic/Christian/etc. People can grow up with a religion and change over time. Zagal e jo^^^ 15:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * To be clear, the source I used indeed says Thompson "is Catholic". It just doesn't quote Klay saying so. natemup (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I support adding Klay Thompson is Catholic to he section since it has the relevant sourcing until proven otherwise. User:Sabbatino that's 2-1 majority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Belevalo (talk • contribs) 18:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The source that you used simply says Klay Thompson is Catholic. That does not look very credible since there is nothing in other sources that would support it. The source also says that Shaun Livingston is Lutheran. and that can easily be supported with this article – Livingston graduated from Concordia’s eighth-grade class in 2000 and still maintains membership at Trinity Lutheran Church... – Sabbatino (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just don’t think the Patheos article is strong enough. A person’s religious beliefs are a personal matter, and not always that easy to pin down. The Patheos article simply looks like a synthesis of other sources, rather than a work of original reporting. There’s no indication the author spoke to Thompson.
 * I wouldn’t have a problem if the Wiki page said, “Thompson was raised as a Catholic,” and cited the USA Today article. I’m more confident that Sam Amick actually spoke with Thompson. And I think it’s a safer claim. (There is a tendency for Wiki editors to latch on to something someone said about their faith years ago and assume that that person holds the same beliefs. But people - especially people in their 20s - can change over time.) Zagal e jo^^^ 18:47, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * True. People change their views as they age. But there isn't any indication Klay changed his views. Therefore it's valid until proven othervise. We can't make assumptions for him. Belevalo (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. User:Sabbatino has a tendency to be difficult and split hairs for the sake of arguing. I support adding Klay Thompson is Chatolic to he section since it has the relevant sourcing until proven otherwise. That's 2-1 majority. Belevalo (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * – Sabbatino (talk) 18:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Patheos is a blog aggregator and not a WP:RS. Elizium23 (talk) 22:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Nowhere did I indicate that "Patheos" is a WP:RS. I wrote more than once that a better source is needed. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your latest revert, the WP:ONUS is on you to get consensus to add material. That is not there yet. It can be added it if it ever forms.—Bagumba (talk) 13:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Zagalejo and Belevalo both offered support, either for my edit or for a similar one, and a second source was also mentioned for addition/clarification. The edit you made merely removed mine without considering what was actually discussed here. natemup (talk) 14:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The edit you made merely removed mine without considering what was actually discussed here: What did you incorporate in your revert? Seems like the same version you have been restoring.—Bagumba (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , you still don't have a valid source. Get a valid source Elizium23 (talk) 18:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I changed the edit a while back from claiming that Klay is Catholic to merely the claim that he has been identified as one. Based on the discussion here, it might be best to change it to the claim that he was raised Catholic (and to add the USA Today source), but the continued deletions seem to indicate an (unreasonable) unwillingness on y'all's part to include anything about his religious background at all. It is my understanding that our goal is to improve the article based on these discussions, rather than repeatedly delete content. natemup (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * We improve articles based on relevant things found in reliable sources. Elizium23 (talk) 19:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * My removal was independent of adding his being raised Catholic, a point which I am neutral on. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 00:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * To clarify, my preference is to say he was “raised a Catholic” and cite USA Today. I don’t support the statement that people are edit-warring over. Zagal e jo^^^ 18:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , USA Today doesn't support that assertion. Elizium23 (talk) 00:41, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, looking again at USA Today, it seems to say that Mychal Thompson was raised in a Catholic household. Elizium23 (talk) 00:43, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I guess it depends on how you parse the sentence. I suppose the sentence isn’t actually that clear, though in context, I assumed it must be talking about Klay. *Mychal* Thompson’s upbringing would be an odd digression from the narrative about Mark Jackson’s Warriors. Klay is the one who was quoted in the article. That said, I don’t think the article needs to say anything about Klay’s religious background. I’d be content to leave it out entirely. I was just trying to offer a compromise. Zagal e jo^^^ 01:45, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

You have reverted yet again. With no changes again. WP:PATHEOS says the source is generally unreliable. Why do you insist on re-inseterting an unreliable source. The other potential source says he was "raised in a Catholic household".—Bagumba (talk) 08:56, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Then just add it and change it to that. What I oppose is the deletion of any mention of the topic from the article. I'm not aware of religion references requiring such a high burden of proof in other articles. natemup (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It needs to be deleted as an unreliable claim on a WP:BLP. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not the strongest of arguments. If you want something else added, that's your prerogative to see if there is consensus for it.—Bagumba (talk) 04:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)


 * To my knowledge, there is no policy stating that additions from reliable sources need consensus before being added. The whole point of this discussion is to ascertain whether or not something should be said about the man's religion, and it is now apparent that USA Today says he was raised Catholic. Moreover, any one of us has reason to add that source and claim—unless I'm mistaken, and there is in fact a Wikipedia policy stating that the prerogative to implement discussion conclusions is for some editors involved and not others.


 * Also, I'm less versed in how to get more eyes on this discussion and receive more varied and impartial feedback, and I suspect you might be more knowledgeable on that front. Have at it. natemup (talk) 04:29, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The policy is WP:ONUS: While information must be verifiable to be included in an article, not all verifiable information needs to be included in an article. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article, and that it should be omitted or presented instead in a different article. The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.—Bagumba (talk) 07:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2021
Klay no longer holds the NBA Playoff record for most threes in a game, it is now held by Damian Lillard.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31550352/portland-trail-blazers-damian-lillard-hits-playoff-record-12-3s-2-ot-loss 131.148.61.238 (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2021
I suggest to change “That season, the two combined made 483 three-pointers, the most ever by an NBA duo.” to maybe “ That season, the two combined made 483 three-pointers, the most ever by an NBA duo at the time.” The next season they broke that record again, and since when on to break that one too, to over 600. Seems more clear for record keeping. Thx! 207.237.251.66 (talk) 04:42, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ DigitalChutney (talk) 16:07, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Game 6 Klay
Basketball Reference is naming "Game 6 Klay" as one of his nicknames. Especially since 2016, that nickname is used in the context of big games with Thompson involved (whether it is actually a game 6 or not). The nickname is named in a subordinate clause in the section "playing profile", but shouldn't it be mentioned in the introduction of the article? --SdHb (talk) 16:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems like it would only come up in the playoffs, perhaps only for Game 6s. Probably undue for the lead, at this point.—Bagumba (talk) 17:46, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Error, Eastern conference finals should be Western.
In the article it is stated “On May 26, in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Finals, Thompson scored 32 points and had 8 three-pointers in a closeout 120–110 win over the Dallas Mavericks to advance to his sixth NBA Finals” it should be western conference finals, not eastern. 38.107.148.82 (talk) 00:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Thanks. —Bagumba (talk) 01:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2023
Add the fact that "Klay Thompson is widely regarded as one of the best shooters of his generation" after "Klay Alexander Thompson (born February 8, 1990)[1] is an American professional basketball player for the Golden State Warriors of the National Basketball Association (NBA)" in the first paragraph. Irabony622 (talk) 06:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.—Bagumba (talk) 07:07, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * https://hoopshype.com/lists/second-best-shooter-nba-history-candidates-curry-korver-miller-allen-klay-thompson/
 * https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/top-15-shooters-in-nba-history-cbs-sports-ranks-the-greatest-of-all-time-from-stephen-curry-to-ray-allen/
 * https://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/article/Why-Klay-Thompson-might-be-NBA-s-best-ever-13689847.php Irabony622 (talk) 07:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You'll need sources that assess that he is "widely regarded" as such. What you have is just multiple authors calling him one of the greatest. For example see this for Tim Duncan: Ironically, that lack of a defining skill helped him become widely regarded as the greatest power forward to play the game.[]—Bagumba (talk) 07:59, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This article states that he is "widely regarded" as such
 * https://www.si.com/nba/2022/06/08/steph-curry-reacts-to-klay-thompsons-nba-finals-struggles Irabony622 (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * As well as this article, which assesses his scoring ability and states him as one of the best three-point shooters in NBA history
 * https://www.metroleague.org/why-is-klay-thompson-an-all-star/#:~:text=Thompson%20is%20one%20of%20the,league%20in%20three%2Dpoint%20percentage. Irabony622 (talk) 02:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't consider metroleague.org a reliable source. With a subject as prominent as the NBA, mainstream sources should be available if the view is really prominent. —Bagumba (talk) 04:21, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ideally, you might consider expanding on this point, preferably with multiple reliable sources. Per MOS:LEADREL: Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article... I don't doubt your statement.  Actually, it looks like you should have permission to edit the article on your own (now?). So feel free to be bold and edit the page, but you're welcome to discuss further if you still have doubts. Best. —Bagumba (talk) 04:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)