Talk:Kleeneze/Archives/2012

Network Marketing
I've been trying to add information regarding Kleeneze's army of unpaid salespeople, who basically work to recoup their original investment. but it keeps getting deleted. Kleeneze is reputed to be Britain's best known matrix scheme. The extremely positive description of the company smacks of spam. Malinskchen


 * It might be debated if the article is needed, but the content is correct and verifyable. Your POV is not verifyable. But I certainly agree that it is not good the way this article misused as an advertising vehicle. But people are keeping an eye on that. Agathoclea 00:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * also it might be an idea to log into your account if you want these comments to be really associated with the above username. Agathoclea 00:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Unpaid? In that case I'm not sure where my £1500 came from last month.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.46.92.238 (talk • contribs).
 * Thanks for that unsourced, anonymous comment, anonymous! We need more discussion on this article as well as a little more information. Given the dodgy comments and history of this article I think it could do with more sources and moderation. 86.2.174.31 (talk) 01:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that they're a scam. One of my friends has been roped into it unfortunately. The best way to prevent the article from having things deleted is to add references to reputable news articles (preferably not online user reviews) which directly support what you're saying. I'm currently assembling a list of such articles on Kleeneze. There are many, but due to shady SEO techniques employed by the company, Google results are polluted, which makes the job slightly more tricky. I'll hopefully be able to improve this article a bit and make it more objective. 94.193.254.136 (talk) 23:16, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

This information should not be hi-jacked by distributors who wish to advertise - however, network marketing is a viable way of running a business, but like everything it takes consistency and effort. There are too many people who expect loads of money for doing nothing. Kleeneze are not making false claims - they state clearly that the system is simple in essence but that large incomes are not easily achievable.

Daft claim
During the war years of 1939-1945, women were encouraged to become salespeople while the men were away fighting. By whom?Mtaylor848 (talk) 18:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Twaddle
This article is garbage. Completely unsustantiated and filled with booster fluff such as "Kleeneze has traded in the UK for 86 years and has never made a loss. It continues to grow its business in the UK via its self employed team of independent business owners despite the current economic challenges facing traditional retailing in the UK". It reads like a poor advert.

P. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.141.77.98 (talk) 17:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Methods
"Although many distributors have devised strategies to minimise the losses."

That is, if you junk their unsolicited catalogue they will persistently ring your doorbell and demand their "orders." Women living alone do not want to have to talk to shady characters at the doorstep, so they leave the unwanted catalogue out on the day indicated. This is a nuisance that pollutes their driveway with junk, but it's the only way to be shod of them.88.110.113.134 (talk) 15:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)