Talk:Klein Independent School District/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Stedil (talk · contribs) 19:14, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Greetings! I am looking forward to reviewing this article. I happen to be an educator in Montgomery County, so I am somewhat familiar with the district. Stedil (talk) 19:14, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing, it's been in the queue for a while. I'm actually a high school student in the district - weird how paths meet here on Wikipedia. Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 19:22, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

List of Campuses
Since this is a prose article, the list of campuses is out of place and dwarfs the minimal amount of prose about campuses within the district. I think there are enough individual campuses in the district to warrant this information be placed in a separate list article. Perhaps a "List of campuses in Klein Independent School District" article could be created and the current info in this article transferred there. In addition, the "List of campuses in Klein Independent School District" could be replaced with a prose section detailing some general information about the different campuses in the district, such as feeder patterns, a concise summary of the high school articles within the context of their feeder network, and other pertinent information linking the campuses with each other/describing the relationship between campuses. Stedil (talk) 20:32, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Would something like List of Houston Independent School District schools be a good model in terms of creating the article with the separate list of campuses? Thanks for all the comments so far. Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 23:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Kind of. I actually prefer the table format of the list in this article to the bullet points of the HISD list, as it's easier on the eyes. To start, I think a direct copy/paste of the info in the "List of Campuses" section (with references) would be sufficient for now, with a link to it in this article, particularly for the purposes of improving this article.Stedil (talk) 00:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's a more comparable example: List of schools of the Hurst-Euless-Bedford Independent School District. The main article and its talk page, Hurst-Euless-Bedford Independent School District, are also worth a look. This is a de-listed good article that it looks like has a team of editors who are working to get it up to GA status, like yours. As far as I know, there aren't any good or featured articles about school districts currently. Stedil (talk) 01:36, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I removed the table of the list of campuses and added a lot of prose about high school campuses and feeding patterns and such. I think the summary is probably too long - comments would be appreciated. Also, I will be just making the article and adding references with a link to the article. Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 01:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

District information
The state of Texas now compiles a lot of information about districts into one report called the Texas Performance Reporting System (TPRS). The latest report is 2015-2016, which is located Here. I think this report will help eliminate a lot of the outdated information and links in this article. The school district's official website may contain some information (like demographic data) that is more up to date, but TEA is the source for official performance and district profile data. Stedil (talk) 23:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Reference update
Here's a list of reference priorities: Stedil (talk) 02:18, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Update number of students enrolled in the district. You can include some of the numbers currently in the article to show change over time. I've used a  in the infobox for all of the data in the infobox from the 2014 TAPR...is that sufficient or would i need a whole entire section on student growth?
 * Update the TEA performance rating in the lead to the most recent evaluation (2015-2016). ✅
 * Update the district's progress at completing the 2015 bond initiative. ✅
 * Update the progress toward completion of future schools in "Future Schools" section. ✅
 * Opening two paragraphs under "History" need to be cited. ✅
 * Fix discrepancy in the number of elementary schools, then source where mentioned. ✅

Broad Coverage update
Here's a list of priorities under condition 3a, "Broad Coverage":
 * Student/population demographics: number of students in the district, change in enrollment over time, racial diversity. ✅
 * Feeder patterns: you don't have to go school-by-school (that would be more appropriate in the list article), but explain the method the district uses to place students in schools in general. (i.e. what are "attendance zones" and how are they used?) Are there exceptions where the student attends a different school from the one they are zoned to? If so, what are the exceptions?

Stedil (talk) 02:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC) Stedil (talk) 03:04, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Related to the above, define the terms, "elementary," "intermediate," and "high school" within the context of this school district. These terms mean different things depending on the district. Which grades attend each? ✅
 * Performance results: refer to reference under "District Information," located above. ✅
 * Curriculum: explain any district-wide programs or initiatives, particularly those that may be unique to this district. ✅


 * I"m going out of town on the 6th - i'll try and get as much of this done as possible, but I will not be back by the 19th. As I complete changes, I'll be marking it with ✅. Let me know if anything else comes to mind in order to have this article meet the GA criteria. Thanks for the in-depth review! Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 03:17, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Any other concerns?
I've finished all of the critiques you've given above. Let me know how they look. (Also: I found out this would be the second district that would be GA, Briarcliff Manor Union Free School District is the first one) Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 16:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, you've made a lot of changes to the article. However, a few other issues have now appeared that will need to be addressed. I'll update below and in the rating table. Good work so far.Stedil (talk) 04:53, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Bonds
I like the update on information concerning completion of the 2015 bond. However, I think the article provides a little excessive detail regarding the smaller projects in the bond, starting at, "Another project being completed is the new Northcrest Agriculture Facility," and including everything in the final paragraph. It comes across as simply being a list in prose format, with details about bond construction that the average reader won't care about. Here's a sample format: "Other projects currently being completed include: x, y, z, etc." and "Projects awaiting initial construction include: a, b, c, etc." Estimated year of completion may not be necessary on these minor projects. Stedil (talk) 13:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I did some more cleaning in the article that eliminated most of the issues (diversity of sources, neutral tone, article focus) I raised in the updated review. Once the minor details in the bond section are cleaned up, I'll list it as an GA article. To clarify: you don't necessarily need to completely eliminate reference to the minor bond projects, but just condense the information so it can be read more quickly and easily. Stedil (talk) 21:24, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I will take care of this as soon as I get some time. Thanks so much for doing so many changes (honestly I should've done them myself)..I will take care of that bond issue ASAP. Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 03:12, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I cut out a lot of the dates and funding information to try and shorten it and make it a bit more concise. Let me know if it was done well. Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 03:22, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Current Campuses
If a "List of Klein ISD schools" article is written, then the information about the High schools would be more appropriate in that article. Without it, this information is appropriate for GA standard and should be left as is. Stedil (talk) 21:24, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm writing up a draft for the List of Klein ISD Schools article (located here) and will transfer that information when I move the list article to mainspace. For now, I' mjust going to leave it as is if that's okay with you. Mr WooHoo  ( T  •  C ) 03:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Final Update
Great work updating this article. It has been significantly improved as a result of this process. Make sure to check in periodically on the article over time to update information and prevent it from going out of date, especially in regards to the bond progress, building of schools, academic performance, and demographic information. Stedil (talk) 16:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)