Talk:Knight Lore

Chart History
As Retro Gamer and Martyn Carroll are falsely claiming that Knight Lore was the best selling game in January 1985, these are the actual chart positions:

Personal Computer News (compiled by RAM/C):

#1, week to 22 Nov (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews089-01Dec1984/page/n5/mode/2up)

#2, week to 28 Nov (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews090-08Dec1984/page/n5/mode/2up)

#1, week to 5 Dec (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews091-15Dec1984/page/n5/mode/2up)

#1, week to 12 Dec (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews092-22Dec1984/page/n5/mode/2up)

#4, week to 3 Jan (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews094-12Jan1985/page/n5/mode/2up)

#7, week to 10 Jan (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews095-19Jan1985/page/n5/mode/2up)

#5, week to 17 Jan (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews096-26Jan1985/page/n7/mode/2up)

#4, week to 24 Jan (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews097-02Feb1985/page/n5/mode/2up)

#11, week to 31 Jan (https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews098-09Feb1985/page/n5/mode/2up)

Home Computing Weekly (compiled by Gallup):

#7, week to 12 Dec (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.php?issue_id=2659&page=8)

#7, week to 31 Dec (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.php?issue_id=2661&page=43)

#13, week to 8 Jan (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.php?issue_id=2662&page=8)

#13, week to 15 Jan (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.php?issue_id=2663&page=45)

not in Top 20, week to 23 Jan (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.php?issue_id=2664&page=4)

not in Top 20, week to 30 Jan (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.php?issue_id=2665&page=4)

In both the RAM/C and Gallup charts, Ghostbusters is the number one game for every week in January 1985. Stooob (talk) 08:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * For posterity, here is the source quote we're discussing:
 * Thanks for that research. My only question is whether the author might have been referring to another software all-format chart, given that the two you've shared also differ in conclusion. czar  20:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The RAM/C and Gallup charts are slightly different but the conclusion is exactly the same - Knight Lore was number one in late November/early December.


 * The author has most likely simply failed to take into account the time difference between the charts being compiled and the date on the front of a magazine. As an example, the chart where Knight Lore knocks Underwurlde down to 2 is the RAM/C chart printed in Personal Computer News on 1st December 1984. Now, if you look at the Personal Computer Games monthly chart where Knight Lore knocks Underwurlde off (https://archive.org/details/Personal_Computer_Games_Issue15/page/n12/mode/2up), that has February 1985 as a cover date, it was published in January 1985, but the chart is from weeks before that.


 * Here's a modern source showing all the Christmas Number Ones since 1984:
 * https://metro.co.uk/2022/12/21/39-years-of-uk-video-game-christmas-charts-what-was-your-number-one-17977882/
 * confirming Ghostbusters was already at the top before January.


 * and finally, if you check the Activision article in Retro Gamer 29, page 57, it states the Spectrum version of Ghostbusters was released in 1985. Retro Gamer is not a reliable source!
 * Stooob (talk) 15:00, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That seems plausible. For other discussion on reliable sources, best suited for elsewhere but just for the record, Metro is an unreliable source on Wikipedia and WT:VG/RS is the best place to have a formal discussion on the general reliability of Retro Gamer. A publication getting a fact wrong is different from being altogether unreliable. czar  17:56, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Family Computer Magazine preview
czar 06:58, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

French reviews
207.229.139.154 (talk) 02:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Jeux & Stratégie #32
 * Jeux & Stratégie HS #3
 * Thanks. Is there anything from these reviews that warrants inclusion that isn't already covered in the article? czar  04:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)