Talk:Knights of Pythias

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This article has veered off NPOV all to heck and is now a cut-and-paste of text found at and other places. This seems to be a copyright violation at least. Should I revert or post a copyright violation n it? Paul, in Saudi 01:54, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is it really true that the order does not have a "white male" requirement anymore? The sites and  both use the present tense when referring to it, and I cannot find anywhere (not even on their website) a positive statement that the order has abandoned the requirement. Is the charter online somewhere? AxelBoldt 16:58, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I have to admit that I cannot prove it. But "It just has to be true." A poor defense. I will look into it in order to have cite now or after my vacation. Paul, in Saudi 03:42, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I AM a Knight of Pythias. We happen to have a very diverse membership; in my time in the order the "white male" thing has never come up.  In the application form it does not mention that you have to be white.  you DO have to be male (it is a fraternity, after all) but all are welcome. Jeremys779 17:34, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Updating this page

 * As a Pythian, I want to expand this article, especially after seeing KoC as the featured article today. In response to AxelBoldt's sources--#3 is a KoC website, and is very poorly written.  #2, however, seems to be an actual article.  I will have to find their sources.  Still no "white male" requirement in the rules that I have seen (unfortunately, I cannot post the Order's constitution online!)  Any ideas on how to fix this?Jeremys779 03:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I am also a pythian. Although I also will not put our constitution and laws on the web, I will say that at on time being a "white male" was a requirement. That law was repealed in the early '70's. The citation is in our Supreme Statutes that I cannot create a link to because that they are not on line. Pythiaschad (talk) 02:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC) pythiaschad

Listing of Grand Chancellors past and present?
My dad is a Pythian -- or at least he was, in the chapter in Co-op City -- and I'm trying to help him reunite with some of his old friends, several of whom are Past Grand Chancellors. Is there any way I can find them? --204.246.229.216 16:15, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * of course. I had a similar situation tracking down my grandfather.  Contact the local Grand Lodge (in New York, contact information is availible at http://www.nypythian.org .  It would help if you know around when he was a Pythian (if he still is, it helps to know which lodge he belongs to). - Jeremys779 (edited from another computer, but i forgot to log in!) 71.167.199.157 07:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Supreme Being?
Does this mean that Christians are de-facto excluded? I can hardly imagine a believer publicly trading the names of Christ and Trinity for some robespierian heresy - but then my personal contacts with Christians are limited to Eastern Orthodoxes and Lutherans.

Cheers, East of Borschov 11:36, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

How are Christians excluded?
The order is non-sectarian. Similar to the Masons, it is belief in some Supreme Being, the nature of which is not dictated to the members. I have often questioned how someone who is polytheistic would take the membership oath, but that is another discussion. So, how does this exclude a Christian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.251.45 (talk) 05:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

W.C. Handy and the Knights of Pythias
W. C. Handy, the so-called "father of the blues," may or may not have been a formally inducted member of the Knights of Pythias, but he was leading a Knights of Pythias band in Clarksdale, Mississippi when he first encountered the blues in Tutwiler, MS and Cleveland, MS. Somebody should add this to the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.164.106 (talk) 00:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Notable members
Many of the 'notable members' are lacking citations. If citations cannot be provided that they are/were members, they should be removed from the list. If people are either not members, or are not notable enough to warrant a source as a notable member, they should be removed from the list. It is not sufficient to assert that a person who is notable for something else was also a member of this group.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 11:50, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

A few years ago, I added Francis E Warren to this section. In my lodge, we have his membership certificate. We have never been able to upload that type of document to the internet, so exactly how do I properly cite this? Rocco81b 77 (talk) 7:08, 6 February, 2019  —Preceding undated comment added 14:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe take a picture of it and upload that to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Francis_Emroy_Warren —Geoff Capp (talk) 23:53, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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