Talk:Kolbeinsey

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As of August, 2009, on Google Earth, looking down at the exact coordinates [and the Wikipedia entry marker] of this island from the lowly altitude of '3m'......one still sees only the Wikipedia marker. Since most people can pretty easily see a one-króna coin from 3m, one can surmise that either 1) Google Earth is mistaken 2)The grand island of Kolbeinsey is alive and well but is smaller now than the size of a 1-króna coin, or 3) the island has VANISHED! You make the call.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.60.65 (talk) 19:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe Google Earth looked at the spot during high tide. Also check out Tom Scott's channel video on the same day of your comment. OR maybe YOU are Tom Scott? --Twixter (talk) 01:25, 19 August 2020 (UTC)


 * According to the talk page history, the above comment was made in 2009, ten years before Tom Scott's video. Smyth (talk) 21:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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Does it still exist?
In the article, it says the island is predicted to disappear sometime in 2020. So does it still exist, or has it been eroded away? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.64.104.55 (talk) 16:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Tom Scott just uploaded a video about the island. And yes, it's still there, though there is not much left. --Voyager (talk) 15:11, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Given the timeline of this I'm going to assume that the person who asked is Tom Scott Jedi Master Bra&#39;tac (talk) 15:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That seems likely. Is there any more from his video (other than the conclusion) we could include that's useful for the article? 217.19.26.255 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It's actually almost certainly not him. The IP points to Illinois, and one of its two previous edits includes "69420" (which was 4 years ago, so to be fair, could mean that it's not a static IP, but still). Likely just someone who came across the same tweet as he did emily  apocalypse  16:37, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Better Photo I don't know how wikipedia works?
The current fair use photo crop from the video is redundant as this better photo is now out on twitter and he says he's making it public domain https://twitter.com/tomscott/status/1295407594601959424/photo/1 --92.24.149.123 (talk) 17:16, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks I see it was added --92.24.149.123 (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I uploaded the fair use photo crop since I didn't see the tweet. Glad to see a CC alt was found. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 18:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Kolbeinn Sigmundsson
Yesterday I added the link to the full text of Svarfdæla saga as there was a citation needed for the claim that Kolbeinsey is named after Kolbeinn Sigmundsson, which is stated in this 14th-century text. However, I read the parts concerning Kolbeinn (by the use of ctrl+f) and it does not explicitly state that his men died with him. It is likely that his men went there with him, but their fate is not stated, and it seems that at least Kolbeinn's body was never found. This happened in the early 900's and Kolbeinn had settled in the valley of Kolbeinsdalur. However, he, as every early settler (who claimed large swaths of land to claim resources and thus wealth), probably had a lot of slaves and workers. The boats they used to sail (at least off into the Atlantic, though he did strand his boat) were not one-man boats, to my knowledge. So it's almost guaranteed he wasn't travelling alone. The question is, did they all die?

The text where this is mentioned is in chapter 18 and goes as follows:

"Geta verður þess hversu fór með þeim Una og Kolbeini, að Uni hlaut það er þeir deildu um því allir voru í móti Kolbeini. Og svo varð Kolbeinn reiður að hann stökk á skip og sigldi í haf og braut skipið við klett þann er liggur í útnorður undan Grímsey og týndist Kolbeinn þar og er eyin við hann kennd og kölluð Kolbeinsey."

In my translation (as I didn't find any translation online) this goes roughly:

"It has to be mentioned how things ended with Uni and Kolbeinn, that Uni obtained what they quarreled over because everyone was against Kolbeinn. And Kolbeinn became so angry that he jumped on a ship and sailed to the open ocean and broke his ship by the rock that lies out north from Grímsey and was Kolbeinn lost there and is the island named after him and called Kolbeinsey."

Basically, I'm just not sure whether I should remove "with his men" from the article or not, since, while it is likely that happened, it's not stated. Dalitidlamadur (talk) 06:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Discuss how climate change causes islands and pieces of land to erode by waves and higher sea levels due to melting ice like Kolbeinsey
Help people improve their knowledge of these matters Thekingofserver (talk) 11:53, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good idea. However we are fairly limited on sources here and none of them directly mention climate change, one of them mentions "marine erosion". Do you have any sources that mention climate change directly? FozzieHey (talk) 11:59, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Original research
A Google Earth link is not an adequate source that the island has now disappeared. According to the comment above, it wasn't visible on Google Earth even as long ago as 2009. This might be because Google's satellite coverage has lower resolution over the sea, or the island might have been obscured by tides or storm conditions at the moment the image was taken, yet still be above the water at other times. Smyth (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Has anyone checked on this island since 2021?
It was expected to be completely eroded away by 2020. 2601:147:4780:2970:7C31:AA82:189C:D3D (talk) 02:48, 13 November 2023 (UTC)