Talk:Komnenian restoration

What about the Seljuks?
What I can't find is the battle against the Seljuks. Sure enough the Balklans was important to control and Constantinople was mostly on the Europe and not Asia minor but the fact is most territorial gains was in Asia Minor. And it was the Seljuks who were causing the most trouble, being a very large power at the time of the Battle of Manzikert. Surely, under John Komnenos or Alexius there were some battles fought between the Turks and Byzantines other than Manzikert and that other long M named battle, in 1177? This article gives the impression that the Byzantines simply tagged along the Crusaders as they went towards the Holy Land. But Trebizond and parts of Central Anatolia were untouched by the Crusaders. I think the Seljuks simply withdrew to avoid being outflanked as the Crusaders marched south but is there any one that can tell me what if any were the battles between Byzantium and the Seljuks/Turks as they re-captured some of Anatolia and Trebizond? Thanks.

John Komnenos fought the most campaigns against the Turks; however because most of his conquests were achieved through sieges, there are few well-known battles from the period. There is a very detailed description of John's campaigns against the Turks at Byzantine Empire, under 'John's restoration of the empire'.

For Alexios Komnenos, the most important single battle in the east was probably the siege of Nicaea. For Manuel I Komnenos, the most important battles occurred in the west; Manuel's campaigns secured the empire's territories in Asia Minor by the building of forts and the construction of fortified walls around many of the cities of the region, rather than by major conquests of new territory.

I hope this was of some help to you :) Bigdaddy1204 10:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. So I guess the Seljuk Turks were more or less indecisive in their defense until they were united at that battle (i forgot its name) in 1177.

John II and the Varangians
John II could not have created the Varangian Guard since it was formally founded in 988 by Basil II according to its own article. He may have reorganized and reformed it, I'm not sure, since I'm not all that familiar with the period of his reign. Hal3399 (talk) 01:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Citations and Sources
There are almost no specific citations in any of the sections on this page, and the total source list only includes two items. There are a number of value judgments ("older and incompetent men unfit for rule" under "Before the Komnenoi") without elaboration to explain where those judgments come from or specifics that might provide a basis for them. While the page includes lots of detailed information, it lacks the proper structure for a wiki article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:22:4000:105:1F98:781:5E07:1E8F (talk) 15:33, 26 June 2024 (UTC)