Talk:Korean numerals

Numerals
Are these numerals, or just number-words? Is there a special set of symbols for numbers unique to Korean usage?
 * A valid point. -- Visviva 04:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * But actually if the article Numeral is any guide, number-words are also a form of numeral. There are also other articles that follow this convention, such as Romanian numerals and English-language numerals... -- Visviva 04:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "numeral" means "symbol representing a number", not "number-word". This article is definitely misnamed. It is true that a few other wikipedia articles make the same mistake, but it is definitely an error. The page on Japanese numerals is mostly about numerals but digresses into number-words a bit, while the page on Chinese numerals deals exclusively with the symbols. I think that it would be a good thing to clear up this confusion both by giving the articles correct titles and where necessary splitting content into a "number" article and a "numeral" article. The way it is is misleading to people looking for information and makes it look like topics are covered that in some cases have not been.Bill 00:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Origin of Native Korean numerals
Hi, I read from somewhere that Native Korean numerals were borrowed/resembles numerals from other languages. Is this true? Alex Ng 02:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Borrowed? I'd be interested to see the source for that. -- Visviva 04:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Then why is it called native Korean numerals? No other countries or civilization used native Korean numerals other than Korean themselves.--Korsentry 06:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KoreanSentry (talk • contribs)

Higher numbers
Can we get a source for these? If they're real -- and I know I've at least heard of gyeong --, they must have been invented by someone. -- Visviva 04:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Web sources tend to use 1052 for 항하사 and 1068 for 무량대수, but my dictionary uses 1056 for 항하사 and increases the gaps by 108. --Kjoonlee 03:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Numerals (sic)
Printed numerals look pretty much the way they do in the U.S. Many of the same fonts are used. Here are some popular fonts provided by HanWord, the popular South Korean program roughly equivalent to MSW Word: 1234567890 HY동녘M 1234567890 굴림 1234567890 HY엽서L 1234567890 피노키오M 1234567890 궁서. (I hope these fonts are accurately depicted here: I pasted them from HanWord.)

On calenders and other public printing, the numeral two is a flipped five (i.e., a semi-circle is connected with a vertical bar to a horizontal bar at the base).

In hand-written numerals, a seven has a long bar slanting down almost like a German one, or it can be drawn with a vertical bar on the left (as much as a third or quarter of the height of the main bar) going up to the horizontal bar. Nine is occasionally drawn with the buble on the right of the straight vertical bar (instead of on the left as in U.S. hand-numbering). Four can be written with a vertical bar on the left, a slanting bar or, a slanting closing bar (as in the computer font four. Eight is some-times written as one circle above another.

In presenting most numbers larger than 999 and practically always when the numbers are larger than 10,000, commas are placed after every three digits. For example: 1,234,567,890 representes one billion, etc. Thus, the commas do not reflect the counting system (ones/tnes/hundreds/thousands/ten-thousands etc.).

Maybe some of this should be incorporated into the article. kdammers. 5 June 2007. 20:42 Korea time.

NUMBER USAGE:

It should be noted that the two number systems generally follow the abstract/concrete form structure. For example, Hana, Dul, Set (1,2,3) would be used for indicating time; Han Se (1:00 o'clock), where Il, E, Som (1,2,3) would be used for counting objects. When referring to people, you would use the abstract form; Han Saram (one person). As with all languages, there will be exceptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlie0513 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I Have Heard of Other Systems
Number names -- From my wife's friends and associates I have heard the there was also a system of numbers that was very old (predating hana, dul, set, net) that began with kap or gap for 1 and ul for 2. Does anyone know anything about that system that could be added to the article?

Numerals -- Calenders sometimes have a different symbol for 20 (A vertical line with two horizontal lines crossing it, pronounced something like sarak.) Does any one have any information about that and, if so, could it be added to the article?


 * JimCubb (talk) 06:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Answering to your question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_stem --158.109.1.9 (talk) 11:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Notes in section "Numerals (Cardinal)"
Yes... Where're the notes? They seem to be missing. -" Simon OrJ "(U/T/C) 01:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The notes exist, but when the link is clicked on the Numerals section, it doesn't get me down to the Notes section. -" Simon OrJ "(U/T/C) 02:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Written as numbers
The article needs to explain what happens when numbers are written as numerals (1, 2, 3) instead of number words (one, two, three). It sounds like from the comments above, Korean uses Arabic numbers with commas every three digits instead of every two or four? That seems somewhat inconsistent, as Indian numerals are written as they are spoken if using the South Asian numbering system. Perhaps sometimes the European system is used for both numerals and words instead of the myriad system? -- Beland (talk) 21:36, 22 July 2013 (UTC)