Talk:Korn/Archive 2

Nu Metal
Jon has said several times they dislike the term 'nu-metal' so i'm replacing it by alternative metal + i'm adding one of his quotes (and its link) to back this up. Please stop changing it back to 'nu metal' now, ok? To have Korn being defined as nu-metal (immediatly in the first sentence of this page!) is an insult to Korn and many fans. Thank you.86.80.121.33 23:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

The fact they they dislike the term "nu metal" even though it fits them makes them not the genre? No, they should stay under nu metal since they are one of the pioneering bands in the gerne. And please sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end Zanders5k 22:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

its fits them not. that is the point. they influenced the genre but are or at least became too different from other bands. alternative metal is better because it has a wider meaning, as Korn is a band with wider musical elements. im ok with the statement nu metal is one of their aspects, but not that they're nu metal 100%. so please change it. you're a fan too i assume?86.80.121.33 23:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you are right. It would make sense to change the first paragraph to "Is an alternative metal band" since their current sound does fit that more, though the bulk of their work is "nu metal". Zanders5k 03:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Right on, I see you changed it to just 'band'. That's even better maybe.86.80.121.33 04:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Korn are an alternative metal band. Their earlier material incorporated some nu metal but that was replaced with a more industrial sound in Issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.255.25 (talk) 20:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

9th Studio Album
I noticed that this was on the page for a while, that the band plans on making a new album next year, but it was quickly removed. Was it factual information, or just some hopeful fan's wish that they'll return to a TALITM sound? If it's true we need to put it back. To any pro editors, sorry about putting this at the top of the page. I want everybody who comes here to see this (as it's important), and some folks are just way too lazy they can't even scroll down. Dark Executioner 15:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Lock Page
Way to much Vandalism on this page, should be locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sexylui (talk • contribs)

This and Slipknot both. Dark Executioner 15:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

It's getting bad now. Gets pretty tedious to keep cleaning it up. Tjohnsond 22:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I put in a request to semi-protect Korn's wiki to only allow registered users to edit but it was declined which is BS in my opinion. The vandalism is terrible. Tjohnsond 03:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

This article does need to be locked for non-registered users. They're getting a bit out of hand. Lovetoadmire 14:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Uh oh, lots of vandilism! By who, I wonder? We need to just put up a big old lock here to everyone!!! That way, if Munky comes back, nobody will know. ((Whomi-iwondr?)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.251.55.130 (talk) 14:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

KoRn Pic
i think that this page needs a pic for KoRn. It shouldbe copyright-free though. Rizk-O 23:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

This pic is fuckin gay, somebody plez change it to something good Aug 17 2007

In my opinion they are the best bands ever and im just wondering, anyone know if they are friends? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.218.11.244 (talk) 00:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC).

As far as I know System of A Down and KoRn do not have a problem with each other, but are not friends.68.80.58.174 18:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Not to be rude, but what moron keeps removing the picture of Korn; we need a pic of Korn, dammit. Stop being losers, and add the damn pic again. It's pretty annoying. And does anyone know who removed the extra 2 David Silveria pics-RETURN THEM.

How do you change the name of the page from Korn to KoЯn? I've tried to do it but can't figure out how Joesthebomb 17:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

To change the name we'd have to actually change what you type in when searching for KoЯn. I say it's not something that needs to be worried about.68.80.58.174 18:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Even though they're mallcore, SOAD didn't have any turntables and shit so they're not really nu metal. they're only associated with nu metal for being mainstream as hell. TightKid 3:28 pm, 18 January 2007 (UTC) Their last albums may be mainstream, but they have recorded the heaviest riffs ever, especially on their debut albums, and this is due to the usage of down-tuned seven string guitars. Listen to them and then to so-called "heavy" metal bands, and you'll see who is heavier.78.3.0.82 18:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure, but i read somewhere that Serj likes Korn. Is it true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.35.228.113 (talk) 18:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
 * you can call them mainstream, and i wouldnt even contest they are, but neither set out to be anything regular or common, in fact, they were both amongst the most inovative and experimental bands ever, and both early korn and early soad is little short of brilliant. (they both suck now though). Lygophile   has   spoken  02:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more on this one.78.3.0.82 19:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

in the influence part it says something about Daron disliking Korn, if there is no citation, it will be deleted.SexyLui 01:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

In an interview about Hypnotize, Daron has said that SOAD have been compared to bands like Limp Bizkit & Korn stating "where are they now?"

NPOV
Section 1, "Johnathon Davies has said Korn's music cannot be classified" - because, perhaps, he might have a vested interest in trying to single it out? Common classification is fairly established. Achromatic 09:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

About another nu metal group, a certain Wesley Dodds has said the same thing: "Bands aren't usually considered reliable sources for assigning themselves genres, since they can often reject common descriptions assigned to them for whatever reason, even if that description makes perfect sense.". I think in the same way. Maybe their roughest fans don't consider Korn to be metal. --Chargin&#39; Chuck 13:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Band's name
So where did they come up with the name "KoЯn"? The article explains what "LAPD" (the band's original name) stands for, but not what inpired the band's final choice for a name. — Loadmaster 15:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Terry Bozzio is NOT a member of Korn, he is filling in for David.

It's actually a little gross. When Johnathan was in his old band he heard about two gay guys eating eating other out, and when one of them came up he had a piece of corn in his teeth. It was a sick inside joke at the time the band started up.
 * That isn't true. It's simply one of a whole myriad of stories on the origin of the bands name. If you can find an interview where he states this as being 100% true and not just a joke, then that's different, but from what i've heard directly from the mouths of the band members, that's not true.68.255.228.81 13:53, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd like to do a little speculation, although foreseen and apparently ridiculous: probably Jonathan Davis likes eating Corn Flakes every morning. --Chargin&#39; Chuck 22:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * lol. What I have heard about this is that "Corn" is a odd name and no one would forget it. It is draw and named "KoRn" because it should be a child writing that.Stranhorox 20:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if this is true, but I read somewhere that the "R" is backwards because when Johnathon Davies wrote the word for the first time or drew the logo or something he did it with it his left hand so he accidentally wrote the "R" backwards. --Fukhed666 00:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Band name
well here are a couple quotes from Jonathan Davis: "Korn" popped in my head, and I'm like 'What about "Korn"?' ... and we're all like, 'Fuck yeah!'" .. "To me it kind of means that it doesn't matter what your band is called. Name or not, the music makes a name, you know... 'cause "Korn", that's a dumb name, but once a band gets established, then it makes a name cool. -- There are two other persistent rumors: 1- Korn means "Kiddy Porn"  2- a story that includes eating corn, a party, felching and diarrhea .. You can put the details together yourself since they're different every time someone tells the story anyway.


 * Doesnt mean much, but I swear to god that there was once an mp3 circulating where in an interview Jon confirmed the "eating corn, a party, felching and diarrhea" story. I don't expect you to take my word for it, but I used to be obsessed with this band and I assure you that this is the reason for the name, or at least Jon made it up, but I've heard him say it. The "popped in my head" quote is from their "Who Then Now" video.

The origin of the name is from the gay porn video, one guy put a peice of corn on the cob, in the other guys ass. Thats where Jon got the idea for the name, "Who Then Now?" says it just popped into his head (from watching that video". 80.229.169.189 14:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

KoRn Is Spelled this way cuz thas how JD thought a child would spell it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.94.244.223 (talk) 19:54, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

KORN, the radio station on Hee Haw, the TV show Davis dad was on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.115.77.125 (talk) 16:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Influence on other artists
Finally is here! Thank you.
 * It kind of reads like an advertisement, frankly. The grammar is wrong, words such as "cites" should be changed to "cited," since the event has already occurred and Wikipedia isn't a band magazine, so it maintains some amount of NPOV. Shadowrun 19:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see a section on who Korns influences were.

Being a metal fan myself since 1986 I can hear many different types of older style metal in their music, including death metal,    grindcore and industrial metal which were well established as genres by 1990.Take Godflesh for example, they were an industrial metal band from England. Listen to their album StreetCleaner from 1989 and you will see what I mean, I would be very surprised if at least one of the Korn members had not been influenced by that album.. The Severe down tuning of their guitars which was made popular by the thrash/death metal genres is also proof of their underground metal influences and certain parts of certain songs would not be out of place on a death metal album including some of those guttural roars done by the lead singer. So, some more info in this regard please, at the moment this article sounds a bit like a Korn worship FanMag for me...

Why was Sepultura removed from this section? It is not a secret that the album Roots was heavily influenced by Korns 1st record.--DevilsAlwaysCry 01:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Seen It All
We need to expand and improve the Seen It All article or I'm gonna propose it for speedy deletion. The article was full of POV and I removed that content. I've added the Song Infobox but I don't think that'd enough. Armando.O ( talk 19:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Korn unplugged
Korn now has done unplugged with Amy Lee, so should this be under discography?Nanajoth 18:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Why hasnt this been included? It is official. http://www.virginrecords.com/tools/korn/unplugged/ecard/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.44.16.10 (talk • contribs)

If you mean new, acoustic rendition of Freak on a Leash, I think it should be included in actual Freak on a Leash article, but in new section and reference in template should refer directly to this section. Broken soul 11:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The article needs to be partially re-written
There are some weak sections in this article. Particularly from "See You On The Other Side" onwards. There are several footnotes needed and clumsy style should be removed in order to improve aesthetic value of this article. I think all information about 8th studio album should be included in its separate article, because it looks clumsy in the main article. Are there any volunteers to help? :) Broken soul 20:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

The Rabbit and the Horse
What are they, exactly? I saw them on the "See you on the otherside" album and then agian on the live tape of Freak on a leash, are they mascots of the band or something? 70.16.21.142 03:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe they are simply conceptual works of art inspired by "Alice in Wonderland." Livingston 10:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Genre
I removed 'Funk Metal', because they're straight nu metal. I'm on the edge with Alternative Metal, I think we should remove that too though, because nu metal describes every element of their music perfectly. Thoughts?

Creation Destruction 16:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, Fieldy's bass-playing style is very funk-influenced. He and Head were in a funk band called Rag Tyme before forming Korn. And, to me at least, a lot of Fieldy's rhythms are very funky. So yes, Korn should be partially classified as funk metal.

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Yeah, but is "Funk-metal" even a known subgenre? what other bands are "funk metal" (and don't say RHCP, as they have almost no metal influence at all). AnthonyG 21:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, "Funk Metal" is a fairly known subgenre, a notable group would be Primus, and definately some of Mr. Bungle's earlier work.

Rage Against the Machine and Faith no more are also Funk metal.

Funk and Hip-hip influences are the main thing that separates nu-metal from other types of metal. It's redundant to list them as additional genres for a nu-metal band. 123.3.24.173 01:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)Liam I'll remove gothic rock.they're not a goth band.

Why the hell is Progressive Metal even mentioned in the genres? I'm going to remove it.

Progressive and goth are both their because of their new album, which shows both of those genres.

I think experimental should be added to the genre's list, becaues they have always changed the way their music sounds by using differnt and unique instruments. For example on See You On The Other Side they used a glass harmonica and on their new album they are using 8 string guitars and 15 string basses. Anyone else agree?ROSALES 27 01:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Korn's official Myspace states their Genre as Rock / Metal / Hardcore 80.229.169.189 21:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Korn are not progressive metal. They do not fit wikipedias article for progressive metal and I am removing the genre, it doesn't matter if they claim they are, they are not. I suggest you put them under genre disputed Zanders5k

If you listen to their new song "I Will Protect You" it fits everything described in the wikipedia article for progressive metal. ROSALES 27 03:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is the tag Industrial Metal there?

I am removing the "progressive metal" label for several reasons: 1. The citation currently says absolutely nothing about progressive metal. 2. I did visit the citation link at one point, soon after it was posted, in which it mentioned quite briefly that "one or two songs" would have "some proggy influence." This does not make Korn progressive metal any more than "I've Just Seen a Face" makes the Beatles a country band, because "one or two songs" involving "proggy influence" does not reflect on their overall sound. 3. This new album has not even been released yet. If they prove they have indeed switched gears to be a progressive metal band, that will justify adding "progressive metal" to their listed genres. 4. It says on Korn's own Wikipedia page that Terry Bozzio has already left the band for yet unknown reasons. He may have recorded a few tracks with the band, and being a progressive rock drummer, they may be "proggy" songs, but it sounds like the new album will only have a little bit of dabbling in progressive elements at best, so I think this justifies removal of the "progressive metal" tag. Ratiuglink 00:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I have heard the song "I will protect you" and it does not fit the "progressive rock" label. Please explain how you think it does. and I have never heard of Korn being referred to as progressive anywhere, it doesn't really count if one website says they are. Zanders5k 02:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

ROSALES 27, are you at all familiar with any progressive metal artists? I don't understand why you are so set on Korn being Progressive metal. The song you claimed fit everything in the progressive metal article was in an even time signature, had a typical song structure and wasn't longer than standard rock songs or musically complex, it was pretty straight forward. how does it "fit everything described in the wikipedia article for progressive metal"? I think you should do more research before claiming that Korn are progressive metal Zanders5k

What should stay: Nu Metal, ALternative Metal. SYOTOS is pretty pop-oriented industrial, and the new songs from their 8th album seems to be that way too. So we could put Insutrial Metal(Rock), but we'll need to explain: Those are the songs from SYOTOS and after, only that. Gothic Rock, Progreessive Rock and whatever other genres must be removed while the new album is still unreleased. Acoustic Rock is ridicolous. Korn made an Unplugged, but they are not native acoustic musicians. They just played their songs in a other way. The album is acoustic, but they are not. --Stranhorox 00:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Members of Korn have all claimed their new album has progressive elements. The song "I will protect you" does fit the wikipedia article.

1. The length of a song alone does not determine the genre of a song. 2. All the instruments described in the prog. metal article (Electric guitar - Bass guitar - Drums & Percussions - Keyboards) are all heard on the song. 3. Terry Bozzio, who is famous for being a progressive drummer, co-wrote "I will protect you" and the rest of the album. Bozzio's progressive influence can definantly be heard in the middle section of the song. If you cant hear his progessive influence in this song, then you must have heard a different song.

Also, by the sources I have added you can see that I'am not the only one who can hear that Korn has a progressive sound in their music.

ROSALES 27 06:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Longer song length is usually the result of an uncommon song structure and having the instruments listed as being usual for a genre doesn't make you fit a genre. Also, I would like you point out what is progressive about the song instead of asking me to listen to it. Having rather complex drums in the bridge of a song doesn't make something progressive, or else a ton of classic rock songs would be progressive. I have nothing against the band Korn, I just don't think that is an accurate genre for them to be put under, though the genre of progressive metal has apparently become much more open than it used to be... Zanders5k 06:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

As a compromise I think we should do what Stranhorox suggested. We can wait until the new album is released, then we can make a decision on whether or not progressive metal and gothic rock should be added to the genre list. I also want to bring up the question of whether or not experimental would fit in the genre list. I think it should be added becaues they have always changed the way their music sounds by using differnt and unique instruments. For example on See You On The Other Side they used a glass harmonica and on their new album they are using 8 string guitars and 15 string basses, but does anyone else agree with me? ROSALES 27 06:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Experimental? I agree. --201.34.189.138 19:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok lets keep it simple! 1. Nu Metal 2. Alternative Metal 3. Industrial Metal All 3 correctly describe korn in every sense. Enough fighting on a easy subject! God you assholesSexyLui

Stop adding Heavy Metal to genre, because they arent. SexyLui 04:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Jonathan has said several times he dislikes the term 'nu-metal' so i'm replacing it by alternative metal. Note 'nu-metal' in the section where their style and influence on other bands is described, but don't put it in the first fukin sentence of this page. Defining Korn as 'nu-metal', is an insult to many, including the band like i said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.121.33 (talk) 00:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect info in opening section
I noticed the last 2 sentences in the opening section contained incorrect info, so I edited it to make it correct. The first part that was incorrect was that Korn had 8 multiplatinum certified albums. I assumed this was referring to certification in the U.S., in which the correct answer is 4, not 8. Also, they are not the metal/rock band that has the most videos retired on TRL. Korn has 4 videos retired on TRL, while Limp Bizkit has 5, so I took the TRL line out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anthony G (talk • contribs) 03:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

Slipknot on "Influence on other artists" section
I added a citation on the Slipknot section of the "Influence on other artists" article confirming that Slipknot were influenced by early KoRn. You have to scroll down a bit to find it, but its there. Do you think the Slipknot section can now stay?DevilsAlwaysCry 23:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

the matrix
The fact that Korn enlisted Avril Lavigne's songwriting team "the matrix" to co-write their last album after Head left is conspicuously absent from the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 123.3.24.173 (talk) 01:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

terry bozzio as former member?
why is terry bozzio a former member where is the information that he has stepped down as drummer? or what is this reason


 * For unknown reasons he left the band. He will be on the album, but not in the live shows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.67.225.162 (talk) 16:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

This should be added.
There are some rumors that Head may return to the band. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.174.176 (talk) 23:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

There will always be rumors floating around that Head will be rejoining the band. I don't think it's worth adding. Tjohnsond 00:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Broken Links/Citations
There's a few broken links now that Korn Simpol is no longer. Just thought I would bring that up. Tjohnsond 06:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Better album tables?
Why not have better tables with better descriptions of the albums?

Fantômas, an associated act?
Can someone explain to me how Fantômas is related to Korn?

Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!) 23:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Terry Bozzio, but i don't think that is enough to be in asociated acts. --Stranhorox 18:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Not only should Fantômas be removed from the assosiated act's list Otep and Evanescence should be removed also. Because Bozzio is not and never was an offical member of Korn or Fantômas, Otep should be removed Patterson was not a member of Otep when he was touring with Korn and Evanescence because Zach Baird only provided programming for their first album. ROSALES 27 20:28, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree. Maybe later someone else or me will remove it. --Stranhorox 22:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I have a solution. I put Missing Persons as an associated act (Bozzio played with and was a member of them), Billy Goat (Baird was an official member), and Illium and The Changing (Chase was an official member). Lowery is the former guitarist for Sevendust. So can we please leave those edits alone now? Oh yeah, was Patterson in any other bands that we could add? URFG 23:37, 11 May 2007 (UTC)URFG

I will not remove or change anything, but I guess only L.A.P.D, SexArt, and Fieldy's Dreams should stay there.--Stranhorox 21:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Stranhorox, the only acts that should listed are LAPD, SexArt and Fieldy's Dreams because the members of the backing band are not real members of Korn. But I can live with this list until we find some sort of compromise. ROSALES 27 02:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Multi-Platinum?
In the first paragraph, it says that Korn's last 7 consecutive albums have been certified multi-platinum; however, later in that paragraph it says "Korn have had 5 albums certified multi-platinum". Contradictory? Ka5hmir 07:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Whoever keeps saying that "See You On The Other Side" is 2xPlatinum in the discography section needs to stop, i keep fixing it and someone keeps changing it. Its just platinum. Also someone stated they sold 25 million in the US and 30m+ internationally, this is not true. I fixed that also. I love Korn, but I'm not going to make up false statistics. We need to keep this page accurate. We may have to lock this page.

Fixed it.URFG 16:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)URFG

I'm not sure who is right but it says in the SYOTOS article that it is multi-platinum with a very specific number. I can't find any info one way or the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.67.100 (talk • contribs) 2007-07-27 01:52:36

It does not matter. Check RIAA.COM then gold/platinum database. It says "platinum" for "See You On The Other Side". That is the only true way to verify. People have this idea also that if an album sells 5 million that it is automatically 5xP. It is solely up to the RIAA to determine how many platinum certifications an album has earned.

Emotional Syphon Records
I created the page, but for some reason, the catagories and reference section won't come up. This has never happened to me before; perhaps the page was having technical difficulties? Could someone fix it please?URFG 16:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)URFG

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Limp Bizkit on influence on other artist
Hey Limp Bizkit has a much influence and realtionship wiith Korn then any other band. Fiedly and Head made friends with Fred Durst when playing shows at Jacksonville, Flordia Fred was a tatoo artist and gave they both tatoos hey also passed along a Limp Bizkit demo tape Mental Aquaducts they were not impressed. However when they came back Fred gave them a demo tape which featured Wes Borland they were impressed and passed it on to thier producer Ross Robinson who singed they to a record deal and helped produce theier first ablum Three Dollar Bill Y'all. They were featured on both the 1998 Family Values Tour and 1999 were Korn passed the headlining job to them. They were featured on Korn TV before Follow The Leader was released. Jonthan Davis and the rest of the bands appeared in Limp Bizkit's "Faith" music Video. Jonthan Davis also appeared in the "Break Stuff" video. Fred Durst appeared in the Korn video for "Got The Life" and directed and appeared in the "Falling Away from me" video. Finally they both preformed together in a "Back 2 Bascis" tour in 2003.This should be put into the artcile.TG 50 12:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject
I don't know how to start one but I think there should be a Wikiproject for Korn. Some great artists have a wikiproject going for them and I belive Korn is qualified as a great artist. So someone who is good at that stuff should make one for this band. Skeeker &#91; Talk &#93; 05:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think what quantifies a good Wikiproject is a collective of Wikipedians who have a (somewhat) unified purpose. I think there are too many "own agendas" amongst the Korn page editors. Until a consensus, a sense of unity and a central agenda can be found, I would be against its creation. There is however a handful of wikiprojects you could encourage coverage with, such as WikiProject Metal, WikiProject Rock music, WikiProject Alternative music, WikiProject Emo music and so on and so forth (I know they're not emo, but in scope of project emo is gothic alternative, of which Korn are on the fringe). Myabe start a WikiProject task force within one of these (probably most appropriately, Metal) and if it builds momentum in encouraging quality and you can avoid edit wars (which are somewhat prevalent here, currently) then it'd be reasonable then to promote the task force to a WP of its own. -- linca linca  08:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Falling Away From Me
Almost every souce, and page reguarding to it, says Falling Away From Me first debuted on South Park.

Although, the song was performed at Woodstock 99 with slightly different lyrics.

Woodstock 99 took place before the South Park episode.

Can someone please shine some light on the subject?? Thanks, Peace.209.244.188.208 07:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

the song was officially premiered on the episode, it wasnt finished by the time they performed it at Woodstock. Also the instrumentation is different at points.SexyLui 01:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Time for clean-up?
Korn's wiki has way too much stuff included on the front page. Isn't it time to start "archiving" some portions of the wiki? Like the SYOTOS section could be cut down some and some info stored into the SYOTOS wiki. The 'Recent history' section should go in my opinion and cut into other sections (SYOTOS and Untitled). And why does 2007's Family Values Tour have it's own section? Tjohnsond 14:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Definitely agree, and I'm willing to help. I think, mostly starting with See You on the Other Side, EMI (2005-2006) through 2007 Family Values Tour, there's a ton of unneeded information there, and yeah, the last section and Recent history shouldn't be there at all. Untitled album really is a mess, too. Lovetoadmire 01:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

So, I'm in the process of fixing up every section, and removing Recent history, Jonathan Davis' illness and 2007 Family Values Tour. Those last two are each already in the Jonathan Davis wiki and the Family Values wiki.

There are a ton of grammar mistakes and some false information, otherwise the first six sections will pretty much look the same, with Head's departure merging with See You on the Other Side, EMI. Untitled album will be shortened down a lot and I really don't agree with any of the sections after Discography. They definitely should be cut.

I'm waiting for any objections before I finish everything. Lovetoadmire 19:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

No objections here. I'll help out a bit too and cut down some things. Tjohnsond 22:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I finally got around to getting the table of contents sections straightened out. Everything looks a lot better now, imo. Lovetoadmire 21:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian was kicked?
I'm not entirely sure, but I seem to remember reading that Brian was kicked, he didn't leave, but Brian didn't want them to look bad so he said he left. Is this true? 75.176.88.223 05:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Whoever said that is obviously on crack. Why would a "staged" feud have gone on for over 2 years now? Just discard it as an urban myth. Dark Executioner 14:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Fixed up the opening section, just a bit
I provided sources for the two sentences that mention the Billboard 200, and I tagged a few things: Korn selling over 30 million worldwide and 18 million in the United States, as well as David returning in October. I know for sure that 18 million sold in the U.S. is a bit off, and there have been no official confirmations of David returning in October. Also, the bit on Hit Parader's 100 Greatest Heavy Metal Vocalists and Guitar World's 100 Greatest Metal Guitarists doesn't seem very important to be in the introduction, and those two rankings are already in List of awards and nominations for Korn anyway. I'm wanting to get rid of that paragraph and the following sentence: "To date Korn has scored 6 Grammy nominations, and won 2 such awards". Lovetoadmire 00:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep, good job. I think this can be moved into the SYOTOS section (and a little bit more added to it) and the Head's Departure section can be removed: While in the recording process of See You on the Other Side, Brian "Head" Welch announced that he had "...chosen the Lord Jesus Christ as his savior, and would be dedicating his musical pursuits to that end", and was formally leaving Korn. This was the band's first line-up change in their history. Tjohnsond 22:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Combined JD's illness to SYOTOS
JD's illness story is combined in the SYOTOS section now. It makes sense to put it there considering that they were touring in support of the album (SYOTOS) when he got sick. His illness doesn't need a separate section anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjohnsond (talk • contribs) 23:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The "untitled" album section
That whole section needs to be re-written, as it is written in a "future" style...basically looking forward to the album release.

Since the album was release already, it is kind of a weird read. Also, that album was very successful, I don't have the stats for it, but I know it sold like crazy when it was released.

So if someone with more time than I have could be kind and re-write that, perhaps whomever wrote the article about that album, it would be appreciated :)

Tarabyte 04:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

How did you type the backwards "Я"??
its crazy, i just copy and paste. But how did the creator type it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nardulli22 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I wanna know too. I just copied and pasted it....—Signed by KoЯn fan71 My TalkSign Here! 00:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Please, anybody, don't start changing "Korn" in every section of the article to "KoЯn". That's unncessary and the backwards R is only part of their LOGO anyway, it's not actually how you would type their name on a normal occasion. Just saying. Lovetoadmire 19:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't consider it "just part of the logo", on every album and anything else official with their name on it, Korn is always spelled with the backwards "R". It doesn't have to be backwards "R" in every place, but it should be at the beggining with some mention of the backwards "R".Demonoid cyrus (talk) 23:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Still it would be helpful to know, just in caseLlama lom (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Worldwide sales
It's 25 million. I counted up the numbers from the Discography, and it's at least that much, so please, stop changing it to 30 or 35. :] Lovetoadmire 00:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

That goes for the 16.5 million in the US as well. Don't be a smartass. Lovetoadmire 05:26, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Navbox at bottom of page
whoever the fuck the motherfucking little faggot that keeps changing the link to korns untitled album from to italic text normal, then take a look at everything else in that box you fucking piece of shit. theyre all italics. so fuck off, and when i change it back to italics if you change it again your a fucking asshole piece of shit and we can finish this so fuck off you fuckin puta —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.195.126 (talk) 21:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Calm down with the language, yo. The reason the album's not supposed to be in italics is because it's not actually called Untitled Korn album. It has no title. Get it? Either way, just leave it alone. Lovetoadmire 03:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

but it should still be in italics who keeps changing it back to normal thats what i wanna know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.195.126 (talk) 16:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Not me, honestly, but I already explained why it's not in italics. Lovetoadmire 20:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

i understand that but its pissin me off in the words of unforgiveable...can you find out who it is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.195.126 (talk) 04:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * A quick look at WP:MUSTARD should sort things out. You might also want to catch up on Civility and No personal attacks. - Cyrus XIII 05:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

If you agree a source listing Korn as post-grunge is a bad source...
Please speak out here. Lots of people are listing this site as a source for various articles, but time and time again it gives invalid information. Hoponpop69 18:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

A larger conversation on this has opened up here. Please weigh in to make sure wikipedia does not get filled with false information.Hoponpop69 03:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Professional reviews
Professional reviews links should represent a world-view and should not favor the band in terms of POV. It is not NPOV to remove negative reviews from well-known professional critics such as Robert Christgau. I have had my edits repeatedly reverted as "vandalism" or "advertising", neither of which is true. I am not Mr. Christgau and I am not trying to vandalize any article, nor am I trying to push a personal opinion of the band. You can hold them to whatever regard you want, be it high or low, but you shouldn't push POV on articles. This is Wikipedia, not a fan site. (72.153.117.99 06:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC))

My Bad
i accidently fucked the korn page up cant fix it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ash48GotdaLife (talk • contribs) 02:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

David's Departure
Just because his profile is gone doen't mean shit. Maybe their just doing this because there's 3 of them right now or they are revamping their website. No official sites have reported his departure. Saying that he left is like saying just because he wans't on the 8th album that he is not a member. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.65.145 (talk) 14:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Jonathan Davis has given an interview stating that he doesn't expect David to be coming back. It's on Kornspace (the site that has the most new info about Korn on the web). Check it out, I saw it 2 days ago. Plus, Silveria was supposed to already be back in the band by now (if you remember, his original return date was slated for October 2007). I really didn't want to see him leave Korn, but if the word came straight from the frontman's mouth that he won't be returning, then David WILL NOT be back. If you want to discuss this with me on my talkpage, go for it. Dark Executioner 16:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

I don't know where to write on you're site, but you said that he doesn't expect him to come back so that leaves an opening of him coming back, you never know, he might come back way later then ever. If this would be more offical then it would be everywhere. --99.230.65.145 21:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

David could come back tomorrow for all we know, but at the moment, he is not in Korn. Lovetoadmire 13:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

David is no longer in the band, period. And hasn't been for nearly all of 2007. We can trust Jonathan Davis' word, you know, being the frontman and all... Dark Executioner 15:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Why are you so convinced? Did you forget that he is expected to come back in January 2008? Yea so he didn't come back in October, maybe he needed that pushed back or it wasn't the right info. --99.230.66.185 06:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.66.185 (talk) 06:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Munky and Fieldy have also made it quite clear that David is gone, not to mention Jonathan says he's "burnt out on playing", meaning he probably hasn't touched his drumset in months. People sometimes lose interest in music. It happens, trust me. Also, David's expected to come back in January? Says who? Lovetoadmire 13:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I was wrong about site saying that it said that he left meaning no other Korn affiliated has said he left. As for his Drumming, it doesn't matter if he hasn't played Drums for Months, he doesn't forget like riding a Bike. I haven't played Guitar in a while but I still know. David has said that is number one goal is for Korn to be expanded through out the World so I find it hard for him to leave and there is word of him coming back in January 2008.

Trust me, if there is no reliable source saying "David Silveria is slated to return to Korn's line-up in January 2008", then it is just speculation. It's all speculation right now, but the official biography does not list him as a member. That's all the proof we need to list him as a previous member on here. I, personally, will not put David back as a current member until I see him onstage with Korn on the first date of their European BWHAP tour. End of discussion. Lovetoadmire 16:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and this page needs to be locked for Wiki users only. Too many unregistered members have been messing with it. I don't know how to go about asking for that type of thing, so any help would be appreciated. Lovetoadmire 03:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, um, 1. I am a user, I am to lazy to login, 2. I created this topic, 3. I will repeat, there are no any other realiable sources saying he's leaving or left except Jon saying that don't expect him to come back or whatever but he did not disclose that he could come back. Go look at Dave's profile and see what it has to say. So since there is no offical word of him coming back or not that means he's in between which is hiatus. 4. Who died and made you boss of this page?. You have to go with what makes sense here. And I think every Korn Fan can agree that he has not left yet and that's what matters. End of discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.66.185 (talk) 13:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Holy shit I leave for like a day or two then this thing has blown way out of proportion... David is not in the band. He will not be coming back. Why is that so hard to understand? Dark Executioner 15:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Dark executioner

Well you know what there's no more convincing anymore, you may believe what you want to believe and I hope he does come back to prove you're asses wrong and when he does I'll be back here waving it in your faces. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.66.185 (talk) 20:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

That's not my point at all! You really think I wanted to see one of my favorite bands without a drummer? No! Get a clue! I'm merely doing my job here on Wikipedia by posting the latest info. Oh, and its "your sorry asses," not "you're sorry asses." If you're going to pointlessly insult me, at least do so with proper grammar. Until then, grow up. I'm not here to cause trouble. THere's plenty of oppportunities for that in real life. Dark Executioner 17:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Alright calm the fuck down, it's called a typo dumbass. I bet you've done one in your life. Do you think I care how I type on this thing? No. It's not a fucking Essay. See here's the problem, if you are doing your supposed "job" then you are doing it wrong. If David wasn't in the group, Korn would OFFICALLY have said it a long time ago. And you see I'm willing to admit that I am wrong about his return in 08 because those rumors have been OFFICALLY dispelled unlike you guys about David leaving. --99.230.66.185 08:58, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Mind respecting the rule on civility here? Calling people dumbasses and criticizing people and not content is frowned upon and is grounds for blocking. Thanks!  spryde |  talk  15:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey Mr. Disrespectful, have you checked Kornunleashed.com lately? Ray Luzier has been announced as the new drummer for Korn. Now, if David were still in the band and Korn wass planning on him to return, why would they need Ray? It's obvious; David isn't in the band anymore, and he isn't coming back. How can he come back with injured wrists? (It's possible, but he'll need some surgery.)


 * You keep missing my point. I WANT David to come back. He had a distinct personality that contributed to the whole of Korn (Just like Head), and he was a magnificent player as well. But if this Ray guy is on the level of Terry Bozzio or Joey Jordison, they hey man, why not? Black Sabbath kept on going after Ozzy Osbourne left the band, and look what it gave them (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules). Korn is doing the same thing now. If you're a band where a member leaves, and his/her playing is not so good that he/she can't be replaced, then you don't let your band die, you keep on going with an equally-capable new member. See Nirvana, the Ramones, or Megadeth as examples, and now we can add Korn.

P.S. I know you did it this last time, but remember to always sign your comments. Dark Executioner 15:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

I'm sorry I got pissed off there but it's funny how you Dark Exec saying that Korn Space is a realiable Korn source when it says right there David Silveria - Drums and the site was updated yesterday and you guys have been saying he's left for ages. And no those comments weren't mine. Why would I be against what I am saying? And for the person calling me disrespectful if you were to read my previous comments I acknowledge that Ray is his TEMPORARY replacement. --99.230.66.185 18:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If Kornspace is such a "Fake" and "Unreliable" source then how come you used it as a source for saying that David Silveria is still in the band? Yes, the part about Ray Luzier joining Korn is true because its listed on numerous sites (Including their official website where it STILL does not list David as a current member). BTW, anonymous user, how much longer do you want to drag this thing out? Just get over it and start making some REAL contributions to Wikipedia, or don't make any at all. It doesn't hurt me any. Dark Executioner 20:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

This is a debated subject, you can be silenced anytime you want to be, I'm here to state the truth. The whole Korn Space thing was contradicting what you were saying. You were citing it as your source as David not being a member but it says right there that he is. --99.230.66.185 20:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, David is still with Korn, now go edit the pages on Wikipedia to state that. You need to go on the Korn template, David Silveria's page, and change a whole section of their biography in order to do that. I personally do not see someone as part of a band after so long, but since you apparantly have the info go right ahead. I'm through with arguing with you. Dark Executioner 20:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Mr. 99.230.66.185, let me get this straight. You truly believe David is still in the band, even when their official biography does not list him? okay then. Good for you. Do what DE said and edit everything on Wiki that says he is a former member, and good luck. Lovetoadmire 03:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

There is absolutely no point of doing it because you guys would change it anyways. Have you read this whole subject? The theories you guys present is just absurd. It's like you guys saying that oh Slipknot & System Of A Down are not coming back even though they've been gone for a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.66.185 (talk) 13:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"Haze"
So, who played drums on that song? Was it Ray Luzier, Joey Jordison, or Jonathan Davis? Also notable is that there's a "solo" on the song, played by Munky. Go on YouTube and listen to it - not sure if it really qualifies as a solo or what, but it sure sounds like it. If anybody knows who played the drums on that track, will you please do one of two things: edit the article yourself, or edit this section of the talk page to let somebody know. Appreciated! Dark Executioner (talk) 20:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

I'm not sure, but it probably wasn't Joey Jordison. Brooks Wackerman maybe? Lovetoadmire (talk) 17:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

That's not even a possibility. He was only with Korn long enough to record those 4 songs off of Untitled. Dark Executioner (talk) 13:43, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

I've noticed it says that this is the first fully fledged single for a video game. This is incorrect as Adema released a fully fledged single called "Immortal" for the video game Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance. Please can this be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krillar (talk • contribs) 13:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Keyboard duties on SYOTOS
To my understanding, Baird wasnt in the band at that time. But, the album has keyboards and synths. WHo played them? If you know, please edit that page to reflect your knowledge. Dark Executioner (talk) 16:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner


 * I believe it was Atticus Ross. The tracks he produced are pretty keyboard heavy and they do show NIN influence.  Correct me if I'm wrong.--Zahveed 15:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I've misplaced my SYOTOS booklet, but I believe only a few of the tracks had actual keyboard playing. Everything else was from Native Instruments or other programs. Lovetoadmire 15:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm tempted to go with Zahveed. But until then, I won't change anything. If somebody else finds out before me, make sure to go to See You on the Other Side page and edit it. Dark Executioner 17:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Family Values Tour 2008 lineup "announced"
I read in a local fanzine that Korn's Family Values tour next year is slated to include Lacuna Coil, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Chris Cornell and Another Animal. The news came out in the November issue of AtlantaRocker Magazine But, I've heard nothing else about it anywhere, not TV or radio or Internet. I wasn't going to put it in the article, but you know, I could be wrong about this being an untrue lineup. Has anybody else heard of this news from a bigger, more publicized source? Dark Executioner (talk) 16:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

There has been a rumor from HardDrive Radio about a Mudvayne/Slipknot tour during the summer, with Disturbed, so maybe that's Family Values 2008. Lovetoadmire (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. But no word if they were going to be supporting/co-headlining with Korn? Keep your eyes out for any further announcement, guys! Dark Executioner (talk) 19:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

I found out that this is NOT the Family Values 2008 lineup. It is instead a completely brand-new tour called the Rockstar Mayhem tour, and it has nothing to do with Korn at all.Dark Executioner (talk) 23:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Wikiproject
I need to know if anyone wants a Wikiproject on the band. I'm busy working on the Slipknot Wikiproject so if anyone is willing to help out, put your name below: Thundermaster TRUC 08:48, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thundermaster
 * --Vik.sanchez (talk) 15:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Dark Executioner (talk)
 * Lovetoadmire (talk)

I have setup a basic page at here but it needs work. Thundermaster TRUC 13:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

This needs to be under the Wikiproject:Metal, so this way more people can help us. Dark Executioner (talk) 17:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Members
Anyone interested in editing the band, feel free to come and join the Korn Wikiproject at WP:KORN. We need more members in order to function. Thundermaster TRUC 13:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Changed to a taskforce under WP:METAL. Thanks for reading, Thundermaster TRUC 09:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

KORN HAS A NEW DRUMMER!! Ray Luzier from Army of Anyone has joined on drums! he auditioned because Joey returned to slipknot, Korn is soon to tour or record a new album —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesuffering6699 (talk • contribs) 18:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys, check this out
Taken from kornspace.com:

KoRn Space has found out a few things about Munkys recent departure that might leave KoRn fans thinking. Today January 16, 2008 KoRn announced on thier official site that Munky will not be touring with KoRn due to both "personal and family reasons". This leaves us wondering what happened to Munky and who will replace him.

So what really happened to Munky and will he come back? We do not know and we might never know. But what we have heard is that Rob Patterson is set to be in England for tonight. It just so happens that KoRn will be doing a show there. Makes you wonder doesnt it? Heres another thing that might make you wonder. KoRn Space has learned that Rob was already set to fly to England on Monday January 13. So Rob just happened to plan a trip to the UK to be in England on the same day Munky decides to leave. So what does this mean? It might mean that whatever has happened to Munky was planned in advance and a replacement was already set.

But will Munky come back? Lets take a look at into Korn's history. David Silveria KoRn's original drummer is said to be on hiatus by KoRn's managment The Firm. It is said he wanted to spend time with his family and take a rest. A great deal of time passes and we learn that not only was David asked to take a break but it was Jonathan Davis who suggested he should. Since then we have heard nothing from David and fans are still left wondering. Then while on tour with KoRn back up guitarist Clint Lowery is said to be off the Bitch We Have A Problem tour due to "family reasons" by The Firm. Sound familiar? Since then we have heard nothing from Clint or from KoRn on the subject.

So that brings us to Munky. It has been said that Munky was acting a bit wierd and rude at a bar near a show in Dublin. He appearently angered everyone at the bar and was drinking heavily. So did KoRn know Munky would be leaving the tour ahead of time? Munky had said in a recent blog that a big surprise announcement is coming and it is something he feels strongly about. With fans left to speculate all we get from Korn are cookie cutter announcements from Korn's official site.

With Jonathan Davis expected to go in the studio with his solo band and with only two original members of KoRn left what is the future of Korn? As always fans are left wondering.Dark Executioner (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

So has he left? If so, what the heck is going to happen to Korn? We'll just have to wait and see. 08:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC) 08:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Very simple, my friend. Korn is going to be the next Black Sabbath, as far as member rotations go. Very sad to say, but the Korn that we grew up with, the one who said "It will always be about the 5 of us," is gone. Dark Executioner (talk) 15:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

So basically, the members are going to be changing every few years. Thanks for reading, Thundermaster TRUC 08:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Leaving a tour (especially if Munky's father is sick) is completely different from leaving the band itself. It's not rocket science; he will be back, and he will be on the next album.

Oh and that Kornspace post is full of shit. Nothing but speculation. I expected more out of them than some ridiculous conspiracy theory. Lovetoadmire (talk) 07:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I have learned the real reason why Munky left, and I support his decision both as a fan and as a human being. I really do hope that everything gets better with his father. Lovetoadmire, forgive my rash decision, but considering how similar D. Silveria's reason for departure was to Munky's, it's not surprising that I (and who knows how many others) arrived at the exact same conclusion - that Munky had been expelled from the band from management. Upon seeing posts on Kornspace that Munky himself put, however, it seems like we're not going to just watch Munky fade into the horizon like we did with David. Apparently Munky still cares about the fans. Dark Executioner (talk) 01:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Fieldy said in an interview that Munky will be back in June and the band will return to the studio to record another album in July. There is hope yet.--Zahveed (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Kornspace is full of shit? I think I would trust Kornspace more than Kornunderground. I think it's funny how people get so upset over Kornspace and it's all because of jealousy. Where do you think Kornspace got those Sirius Radio Session recordings? I doubt it was Richard Gibbs and like I said, I would trust Kornspace's sources over KU. Tjohnsond (talk) 11:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Except that specific post about Munky leaving Korn was not news, it was speculation. I thought they were more mature than to post something like that, but I guess not. Lovetoadmire (talk) 07:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Redesigning
I've completely redesigned the Discography page, and it looks really nice, but I'm also wanting to make some changes to the main page before I go ahead and post my new edits to the Discography. I want to use the Tool, Smashing Pumpkins, and Nine Inch Nails articles as reference points. Korn's article deserves to be up to par with those bands, so I'll need some assistance with OGG samples and images, and some more vital information, to enhance the History section. I'm also going to remove a lot of the chart positions and sales from History, because I think I got a little excessive with that stuff. The next step will be fixing up every article for Korn's singles and albums/compilations. Lovetoadmire (talk) 23:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Redisigned it? It looks the exact same to me. Could you put a link here so that I can look at it again (maybe I was looking at the wrong thing?) Thanks. Dark Executioner (talk) 19:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

My bad, I haven't posted it yet. I think I'm gonna wait until I fix up the main article a bit (once it's unprotected or at least semi-protected.) Lovetoadmire (talk) 23:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Korn Logo.
Why the hell did you dumbasses took off the Korn logo. I made that logo specially for this stupid page and you assholes took it off. I won't contribute anymore to fuckin Wikipedia, that logo was perfect and by unknown reasons you decided to erase it. Goodbye and thanks for nothing...assholes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.77.97.5 (talk) 20:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Mind respecting the rule on civility here? Wikipedia is not the place for cursing and venting your anger. Your image was probably deleted because it either wasn't free or didn't meet Wikipedia's image standards. Anyway, if you let one little deletion sway you from editing ever again, well, that says something about your self confidence. Dark Executioner (talk) 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

This is why I don't add much to wiki anymore - most of the stuff gets removed anyways. I've been trying my best to improve their wiki page a lot so maybe someday it would be a featured article. Someone once again added another 'Recent history' section which doesn't go with the wiki page at all. People try to make the page into a news site when it's not. Tjohnsond (talk) 11:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

And I found the logo you made and added it back. Tjohnsond (talk) 11:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * By template guidelines the field is a text only field and no logos are allowed. 156.34.225.77 (talk) 00:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

KoЯn or Korn?
Two places I've a mind to ask about. First of all - the page's title. Shouldn't it be KoЯn? Second - the info-box title. Isn't it supposed to bear the logo of the band? I'm probably missing some reason here. Explain? Username (Please Sign Your Post) (talk) 22:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC) ((P.S.: When is this protection going to be knocked down?))

KoЯn should only be for the logo... which does need to be in the infobox. I'm not sure why it's missing. But "Korn" is easier for people to type in, rather than doing the backwards R, which some don't know how to. And I wouldn't be surprised if the page gets locked again... people just don't know when to quit. The vandalism is really terrible. Lovetoadmire (talk) 02:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:NAME indicates that the title should not include non-English characters like the backwards R. Besides, KoЯn already redirects here.  -- Dachannien TalkContrib 18:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyone Curious about Munky?
I'm referring to his hiatus. It might be ending within the next few days. Check this link out: Dark Executioner (talk) 15:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Haha! He's back! Go check out Kornspace for yourself! Dark Executioner (talk) 00:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)