Talk:Kot massacre

NPOV issues
I added the NPOV tag, when I spotted the phrase "The queen was obviously at fault". What's the source for this claim?

The queen called the audiance because her favorite patron Gagan Thapa was murdered allegedly by Jung Bahadur

Also the claim of thousands dying is much to be disputed. The numbers estimated are as less as 30 nobles.

Actually, the Queen was angry because her lover was Gagan Singh, who was killed in a duel with Jung Bahadur (my Great Great Grandfather). The duel took place because Gagan Singh was the mastermind behind the death of Jung's maternal uncle. The outcome of the Kot massacre was a surprise since the Queen had expected to have the Rana brothers killed that night by other Nepalese nobles, what happened instead was Jung and his six brothers defeated the lot and in total approxiamately 80-90 people were dead. I can't recall how many exactly but I know for sure it wasn't 90 or above, I'll check on that later. Gorkhali 08:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Let me clear this issue, queen was at fault because she wanted her son to be crowned the king instead of Surendra, the eldest son of the king, and it seemed she would go to any length to get it done especially in the presence of a weak and coward king who couldn't control her. Her main tool in achieving this was through Gagan Singh, allegedly her lover. Seeing this the nobles, especially Fateh Jang, Jang Bahadur and Abhiman Singh decided to kill Gagan Singh and keep the throne safe for the rightful heir.


 * Gagan Singh was killed, not in a duel with Jang Bahadur, but shot during pooja through aankhi jhyaal. It is not actually known who killed Gagan Singh.


 * And the question of Jang Bahadur's maternal uncle, Mathbar Singh Thapa, It is believed that it was Janga himself who shot his uncle, together with Gagan Singh. Here the opportunistic character of Jang Bahadur is clearly seen.


 * Then we all know what happened.


 * The audience was called because at the time, Pandeys were the prime suspects for the murder of Gagan Singh, and the queen boiling with anger wanted to see the prime suspect killed right there and then.
 * Not all Pandeys but specifically, Bir Kishor Pandey was the prime suspect. Shirsakbc (talk) 04:53, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * About 55 people were killed in the kot massacre and obviously many fled after the massacre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.131.70 (talk) 17:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, both Jang Bahadur Rana and Gagan Singh were involved in the assassination of Mathabar Singh Thapa. Jang Bahadur Rana did NOT kill Gagan Singh in a duel. Almost all historians including Baburam Acharya and PadmaJung Rana agree upon this point. Also, the queen was the person who gave Jung Bahadur the post of CIC and Minister. And, the number of people confirmed to have been killed is 55, though the number is believed to be much higher. 6000 people were exiled or fled from Nepal after the massacre. As the phrase "The queen was obviously at fault", this fact has been supported by the Library of Congress data, and historians like Baburam Acharya, for which I, henceforth, remove the NPOV tag. Shirsakbc (talk) 04:53, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Copyright issue resolved
In my opinion, the Library of Congress seems to be a part of the US Federal Government, and its reports are therefore public domain and can be used as a basis.

That said, when quoting sources, it is far better to write it as quotes and reference them using footnotes than simply to copy the text and have a generic reference. The easier it is to see what's quoted and what's not, the better. --Alvestrand (talk) 20:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)