Talk:Krasin (1976 icebreaker)

What to believe?
According to this site the Krasin is of recent construction. Are there two Krasins?

The picture from the site that describes her as a museum ship seems to be the same as the NSF one... -- Geo Swan 20:25, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Looks like two different ships
Looking at the superstructure, it appears as if the museum Krasin is much smaller than the one currently working with the NSF. - A Polar Sailor (USCG)

Krasin fact discrepancy
There seems some confusion on different websites about Krasin's dates and place of bulding - some say Wallsend. According to Institute of Marine Engineers July 2000 "The builder of Krassin (then Svyatogor) was Sir W G Armstrong, Whitworth & Co Ltd. The ship was launched at Elswick yard on River Tyne, on August 3, 1916." . This is confirmed by the ship museum website. It seems as though the ship was completed in 1917 (ie delivered), but launched in 1916 -- usual convention with ships is to denote them by launch date.

Also, Zamyatin article by Alan Myers quotes Krasin as "Yard number A/W 904" which would be an Armstrong number not a Swan Hunter Wallsend number??? German wikipedia article also says Armstrong.

So i feel it is safe to rewrite article. mervyn 13:34, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

1920-1921
Myers says that Svyatogor was returned to the Soviets by the Royal Navy in 1921, but the other references say that she rescued Lenin (icebreaker) in 1920. Was it a British ship rescuing a Soviet ship? Was it a British ship rescuing the British-operated HMS Alexander, later (when?) transferred to the White Russians and later (when?) to the Soviets? --84.20.17.84 (talk) 13:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Krasin (1916 icebreaker)
I agree that there should be two articles, as there are two ships. I have extracted and expanded the 1916 ship information and, if there is no objection, will make made the present article relate only to the present ship. I think a simple otherships on each will avoid the need for a further disambiguation page. Finavon (talk) 21:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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