Talk:Kristen Pittman

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I'm amazed that a wikipedia article could be one giant excuse for his actions.

Let's present the facts please, not the defense.

This article is to present the facts as argued by both the Defense and the Prosecution because no one knows the real facts in this case. Were we to only put what we know for sure it would be something like this.

A kid was on drugs. Killed his grandparents. Sentenced to 30 years. Supreme Court hearing in 2006. Supreme Court did not delay his transfer to an adult prison during the hearing.

The above leans very extremely in one direction. This article promotes both sides of the story and the evidence given by both sides. We do not judge in court by bare facts, we get testimonies, expert witnesses, etc etc. This is why the article I wrote displays both sides of the story. Thank you. --Padlocke09 21:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC) Padlocke09

And with this reasoning we are discounting the money involved in the company that owns Zoloft and they would hire anyone to say anything to back them up and out of trouble in this scenario. No drug of that kind should ever be given to a developing mind of 12 years. This whole case reeks of scapegoating this kid. I think the prosecutors are the ones who "deserved it". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.89.65 (talk) 22:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Facile Pharma Excuses
It's probably a low-interest article at this point, and as such little editing attention is brought to bear. I found the assumptions made concerning pharmaceutical 'facts' to be surprisingly facile and not well-stated. Let's face it, the kid probably did have mental health issues and some problems with antidepressant dosage adjustments---but my personal impression is that he is also an antisocial teen who has a homicidal tendency ingrained in his personality. He'll get out when he's 42---probably much earlier---and he'll have a chance to show differently. . . . Comments about his subsequent racial epithets, and his statements to the effect that his grandparents 'got what they deserved' do not lend encouragement to the wholesale excuse that a doctor gave him the wrong medicine in the wrong way. --PLK —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.59.70.21 (talk) 21:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

I earlier had placed the line concerning SSRI substitution to make the point that dosages and substitutions cannot be directly compared (the previous writer was bandying about dosage ranges and pharmacological terms as if to build a case against Pittman's guilt). I'm no pharmacologist, but I do know that a physician making such a change isn't entirely out in left field. It's so easy to blame bad behavior on medicines. So more or less everything you've said to me above, is about as valid as everything you claim is wrong with this article? This isn't an isolated thing, other people have had the same thing happen, and have actually gotten full pardons. Frankly, I think this article states it as plainly as anything without taking either side on the issue, despite knowing personally that the author has a stance he feels passionately about. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.51.76.241 (talk • contribs).

Middle name
It is frank, i cant find a citation, just give me a litle time Gen. S.T. Shrink   *Get to the bunker*  01:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * His middle name is shown in the the South Carolina roster of cases to be heard by the S.C. Supreme Court. (One of the references at the end of the article). Tkotc (talk) 07:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The sentence
The sentence I removed talks in his voice without (really) giving him credit. When I read it I get the feeling that whoever wrote the article is on good terms not only with Pittman but with his mania. That isn't apropos. --VKokielov (talk) 03:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

and the other side?
There is a side, you know, that holds that he was a murderer, like all the other murderers that try to squirm and wiggle their way out of their punishments. Now where is the accusing evidence for that side? --VKokielov (talk) 03:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Christoper Pittman
I am not stating whether Christopher is innocent or quilty. I recently saw the 48 hours show, where this case was explored. I am surprised that he was convicted as an adult and not considered mentally ill. I have been on antidepressants, as an adult, for many years. Prozac, Paxil and Zoloft did not work. I was then put on Wellbutrin. It was a terrible experience for me. I was very agitated, manic, and would fly into rages. I stopped immeditately knowing that this medication was bad for me. As a child would he have recognized the symptons? Did he really know what he was doing? Or was he simply reacting to his medication. I feel he has been treated unfairly. If you end up having to change Mental Health Providers, you will find that they have their own ideas of what you should be taking. The Mental Health System is one that needs attention. You'll always get a different answer. I feel sorry for those who get caught in a poor system. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it won't be the last. The doctors are playing guessing games with medications, he should have been removed as soon as symptons of aggitation appeared. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.160.58 (talk) 03:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I saw that eph. too, and I found it disturbing. Lord Sidious Ruler (talk) 23:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

zoloft was responsible
I believe Chris was unaware of what he was doing when his grandparents were killed. I believe this because the same year, my son was also 12 years old and was prescribed zoloft. After a few weeks of his behavior becoming more and more out of control, my son lost it. He grabbed a knife and threatened to kill me. I called the hospital and asked for help. I was told to bring him to the ER for evaluation. On the way, my son became very emotional and stated, "I don't know what is wrong with me, please help me." He was unable to control any of his actions when these 'episodes' would begin. My son was put into a psychiatric hospital for a week. His zoloft was discontinued, he was dx as bipolar and put on depakot. That began another year of heartache and problems. Never was it mentioned that the zoloft was the original problem and my son was NOT bipolar. I eventually took him off all medications, and he has been fine ever since. Had I known 9 years ago what I know today, it would have saved us a lot of heartache. I believe Chris is innocent and Zoloft and the Doctor prescribing the Zoloft are at fault. Chris should never have been sent to prison for something he had no control over. We were the lucky ones that got help in time. Zoloft should NEVER be prescribed for children!!!!!!!!!! Carolynd2530 (talk) 18:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)Carolyn DCarolynd2530 (talk) 18:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Zoloft did not make this person commit a horrible crime. Millions of people including children, teenagers, and adults take Zoloft and other SSRIs and they do not commit crimes like this person did. I even worked in a Pharmacy and you can get Paxil and other SSRIs or Anti-depressants everywhere even in Chester FL so if he really did want to keep taking Paxil he could have. Carolyn it sounds like your son is manic or bipolar and he should be on some sort of medication but not an SSRI.71.162.251.243 (talk) 23:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Many unreferenced facts
I reviewed this article to see how the issues mentioned in the banners could be addressed, and found numerous statements completely unsupported by the few references given. I'm going to mark important facts with "Citation needed" as necessary. The tale of threatening suicide in front of his sister appears in a transcript of "48 Hours", if someone wants to reference it. But that is not the reason he was placed in some kind of mental health or counselling custody or moved to his grandparents. Some of the statements appear to be supported or based on the Free Christopher Pittman/Official site, www.christopherpittman.org. E.g., the fact that his mother ran out on him twice, that his medication was doubled after he complained of side effects (and the way this is phrased sounds more post hoc ergo proper hoc than the aunt's statement that seems to be the source). That there was no Paxil to be found in Chester sounds false on its face, and the real issue seems to be the doctor wanted to hand out sample packs, and he had no Paxil samples. The idea that Pittman "may have" been suffering from an overdose is pure speculation. I think we should be wary of unsupported general statements regarding the effect of drugs, unless they were an allegation or finding in the case. General statements about problems Pittman may have had prior to medication should be supported or dropped. Anyhow, I'm going to see what I can do to fix these issues.Tkotc (talk) 03:15, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Cannot find support for effects of Zoloft issues (inadvisable to substitute) & (manic reaction risk). The supposed racial slurs mentioned were reported by Associated Press, but I cannot get a good link. As for pre Paxil problems that the defense "waved off", I cannot find a link or further description. I don't believe there were two confessions: Pittman made a statement to an investigator before he was a suspect, and that statement was contradicted by his actual confession made later to the same investigator.Tkotc (talk) 06:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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