Talk:Kristi Yamaguchi

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I fixed the paragraph that claimed Yamaguchi and Teresa Weld Blanchard were the only women to have won both US singles and pairs titles, and that Galindo and Ken Shelley were the only men to do so. It turns out there are many other skaters (both male and female) who have accomplished this -- just none recently. The other women include Beatrix Loughran, Maribel Vinson, Joan Tozzer, and Yvonne Sherman; and the other men are Norman Scott, Nathaniel Niles, Sherwin Badger, and Eugene Turner. Dr.frog 22:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Kristi's new daughter, born 11/16 http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/368428.html (last paragraph)

Kristi's Last Name
Is Kristi's last name still Yamaguchi or is it Hedican?--BigMac1212 18:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Competitive Highlights
I started this table like the ones I saw on other figure skaters pages. I looked around the net, but I can only find references to these gold medals she won. I imagine she must have placed other than first in her career. If you could fill it out and place it, that would be great. Or, if you don't know how to make the table work, just put the info here and someone else will do it. If you want to see what a full Highlights table looks like check out, Nancy Kerrigan or Tonya Harding. Noit 02:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Picture
Does someone have a working free pic of her to add to article?--Xiahou 21:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Birthdates
This article had a lot of birthdates, which is considered pretty private information by most. Since these are living people, I have followed the WP:BIO suggestion and removed the exact dates. It's not going to stop a determined stalker, of course (there's the edit history) but at least doesn't look as invasive of privacy. Jpp42 03:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Race or A Kinda Ugly Win?
While I am not ready to dismiss racism entirely as a possible reason why Kristi didn't get many major endorsements after her Olympic win, I do remember her win, and especially her long program as being less than perfect. The description in the article touches on that fact. Kristi excelled in the compulsories, and back then that carried more weight than it does today. Her long program wasn't the perfect tour de force that the public would expect from an Olympic Champion, her closest competitors were just worse. That Olympic Finals seemed to be a bunch of Women trying to land hard jumps, and failing, and Kristi was the only artist, it seemed. Not a great final, by any means. And you can't make the comparison to Kerrigan without pointing out what a household name Kerrigan had become after being attacked. Mikevegas40 11:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

To the contrary, Kristi had a flawless short program. In her long program, she landed five clean triples. Two were in combination (triple-triple), and one was with a split jump entry. She doubled her triple salchau and touched down on her triple loop. She also had two double axels. Basing it on triple jumps, Kristi and Midori Ito each had five triples. Kristi had a triple-triple and Midori had the triple axel. Midori Ito had a fall whereas Kristi only touched down.

Two years later, Oksana Baiul won the gold with four triples, a doubled triple toe loop, a two footed landing on her triple flip, and one double axel. She had no triples in combination. The programs of Midori Ito and Kristi Yamaghuchi two years earlier were technically superior.

Also, compulsories were ended in 1990 so they were not part of the 1992 Olympics. Kristi did NOT excel in compulsories.

The argument that endorsements are based on the level of performance that won a gold medal has no quantitative support.

Nancy Kerrigan being attacked has no relevance here. Kerrigan received a Campbells endorsement after the 1992 Olympics which Kristi won. The attack was two years in the future.

I do recall an interview with Yamaguchi about lack of sponsors. She was disappointed and it got back to her that she didn't "represent the All-American girl". I have no source on this it was quite a long time ago. This entire issue would need more research. She was, however, featured on a Wheaties box in 1998 as part of a series of Olympic Legends.--Wlmg (talk) 19:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

POV and Irrelevant
Her grandparents are described as "victims of the United States' anti-Japanese policies during World War II". This seems both unnecessarily harsh and irrelevant. The use of the term "victim" implies that U.S. actions were wrong. Would you say that Elvis Presley and Willie Mays were "victims" of U.S. military conscription (the articles on Elvis and Willie do not call them "victims")? In any case, the article is about Kristi Yamaguchi, not about her grandparents. Did the fact that her grandparents sat out the war in a prison camp have a direct and important impact on Kristi Yamaguchi's life, or on her skating (the reason the article is here)? Readin (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC) conscription

The above poster seems ignorant of Japanese American history and the effect that the internment had on the interpersonal relationships of Japanese American. Shikata ga nai and the reticence of discussing anything about the internment is prominent with Japanese American internees, and the shame is handed generationally.

The above poster also seems ignorant of the fact that in 1988, President Reagan formally apologized for the internment of Japanese Americans. The Civil Liberties Act of 1988, "Restitution for World War II internment of Japanese-Americans and Aleuts" states that the purpose of the act is to "acknowledge the fundamental injustice of the evacuation, relocation, and internment of United States citizens and permanent resident aliens of Japanese ancestry during World War II."

The above poster also seems ignorant of what happened to Japanese Americann citizens. American citizens were encamped, personal property was taken or destroyed, and accusations of "anti-American activity" was common. The comparison to the draft is offensive. The internment was based on ethnicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenmikec (talk • contribs) 01:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Like how it is worded now. "Victim" is accurate though technically pov - it is best to describe it (or link to where Wikipedia describes the practice) than label it with a word (unless one is quoting someone). But "anti-Japanese" - objectively they were because of the fear that Japanese Americans would be more loyal to Japan that the United States (note that German Americans were not put into camps). This was a practice where families were stripped of their businesses and property and belongings and sent to live in prison camps - men, women and children (although, in the Canadian experience, the men were usually separated from their wives and families and sent to work camps). Children being prisoners of war just because of their ancestry (and whose parents had committed no crimes) - it says the same thing without using the labels - and "victim" is putting it mildly. An official apology is also acknowledgment that a wrong was done (as well as an attempt to garner votes).

Actually I came here because Kristy Yamaguchi and Bret Hedican are going to be guest judges on Battle of the Blades on Sunday November 1 2009 and Monday November 2 2009. They said so at the very end of Monday's episode - Week 4 Results. She is the first American judge (guest or otherwise) - you can look up the others who were all Canadian born. ```` 24.77.75.185 (talk) 03:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

@Readin. Yes. Her grandparents were indeed victims because the US Government officially apologized for the racist and illegal internment camps. It violated their civil rights. Hence, they were VICTIMS. Got it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ducati748 (talk • contribs) 02:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Curb your enthusiasm
The following text was recently added by user:Dec5 But Kristi did prove the nay sayers wrong..and she did eventually surpass Kerrigan in long term contracts with high fashion firms like Celanese Acetate..and made multi millions headlining Stars on Ice for a decade. Kristi also became the perfect wholesome American Image in mega profile "Got Milk "Ads and got her face on a Wheaties box!

She still has her own Christmas Skating show for the Holidays. Kristi has been reported to have earned 2million dollars a year for more than 10 years..which probably puts Kristi in the 20million dollar range... Kristi has become one of the endorsement icons still sought after today....when most have faded away.

Kristi continues to be in the limelight in competing in Dancing with the Stars in 2008. Dec5, while I assume the facts are right and I even personally agree with the tone, the tone isn't really appropriate for an encyclopedic article. Please rewrite to make the tone a little more objective.Readin (talk) 14:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Fixed dancing with the Stars formatting
I combined the two references to Dancing with the Stars into a single reference. It didn't make sense for them to be in two different sections. My intent was not to change the meaning in any way. --Tlbernstein (talk) 06:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

clubfoot
According to this, Kristi Yamaguchi was born with a club foot (a birth defect in which the foot is twisted downward and inverted). Would this and other information be important to include in this article? Such as, how she managed to live with her club foot and/or fix it. What do you guys think? --RACiEP (talk) 00:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If it is true it would certainly be worth including in the article given her vocation. How reliable is your source?  I wonder because again, given her vocation, it seems it would be something worth mentioning frequently and thus already well-known.Readin (talk) 01:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Kristi said this herself on dancing with the stars and showed pictures of her as a baby in casts. Vjydanz (talk) 19:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

User Raceiep cannot see the encyclopedic worth of noting that Kristi Yamaguchi was born with a club foot? It was well known before Dancing with the Stars on which she discusses it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenmikec (talk • contribs) 02:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality of the "Judges' Critique" section
This section takes the word "critique" quite the wrong way and delivers only criticism, not positive remarks. It is absolutely ridiculous there are no good things from the judges listed here, as those were the majority of their comments. I also question the necessity of listing it by week, and that there are so few citations, but that's beyond this point. --Fbv65 e del — t — c // 03:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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