Talk:Kroger/Archives/2017

Very poorly written and sourced.
This article needs a LOT of help. The writing is miserable and very few of the "facts" are referenced. I was reading the history section where I learned that the recession of the early 1980's "caused" labor-management problems. This is ridiculous. Macro-ecomomic circumstances don't "cause" labor problems, incompetent management or greedy unions (or both) do, for example. Additionally, what does the recession in the rest of the U.S. have to do with local store sales? This is more nonsense. People need food, regardless of the economy; their decision to economize either by shopping elsewhere or avoiding more expensive (higher margin) items has to do with how they feel and their income, not whether the economy is better or worse than in Kansas. Other flaws: referring to Kroger as "them" and claiming that Kroger "withdrew" their stores from PA. (how do you withdraw a store??? - stores can be sold, closed, or their inventory (and footprint) can be reduced; they can't be "withdrawn".) All in all, this section (1980's) is very poorly written. Skimming other sections, the same appears to be true generally.173.189.74.254 (talk) 16:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The section you refer to is not "very poorly written." It is a logical and clear explanation of the impact of a macroeconomic recession as "worsen[ing] labor-management relations". The effects of an economic contraction would have a number of effects, which would include changes in cash flows, details of contract negotiations, and other effects that would manifest themselves under the subjective and unhelpful words you used: "incompetent management" or "greedy unions." See also WP:PEACOCK
 * To answer your question, "how do you withdraw a store", try reading a few words further. "During the strike, Kroger withdrew all of its stores from the Western Pennsylvania market, including some recently opened "superstores" and "greenhouses," selling these stores to Wetterau (now part of SuperValu), who promptly flipped the stores to independent owners". Withdraw, then, means they withdrew their operations. And if you want to be pedantic, here's the definition of withdraw: "leave or cause to leave a place or situation". That's a concise and clear description if there is one.
 * Glad to see reckless changes haven't been made, obviously others agree this section is clear as it stands.
 * 97.113.161.48 (talk) 23:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

banner
The word banner appeared in quotes in the last sentence of the first paragraph: "...other "banner" chains, such as..." This must be a slang term from the grocery, or retail, industry. I could not find it on-line in any dictionary. I changed it to "other" (without the quotes), if you know what it means, feel the meaning is important, and want to restore it, please define it in the text. Trust me: if I do not know the meaning almost no one else will. Nick Beeson (talk) 13:05, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * "Banner" means part of a specific group, doc. Must be hard to read the dictionary from that high horse. 97.113.161.48 (talk) 23:39, 28 August 2017 (UTC)