Talk:Krusty the Clown

Moved the page
I moved this page from Krusty the Klown; the last word of his stage name is not spelled with a K. This can be seen in numerous episodes. Andrewlevine 20:22, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain, but I think that the name of the Tracy Ullman short (which was his first appearance) was spelled "Klown". I'm not sure how much it's been used since then, though. --Nick R 22:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * In the shorts it was "Clown" but that doesn't count because he's been Krusty the Klown since the early sixties http://www.homerize.com/framegrabs.php?img=1F22/fg_228.jpg 58.104.20.47 01:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Originally, it was "Krusty the Klown", then the writers changed it to "Krusty the Clown" in the later seasons.

I'm going to throw my voice steadily behind "Krusty the Clown," rather than "Klown." I really can't find a source for Klown, and the link above is quite dead. At the very least, I'm going to change references to "Krusty's Klown Kollege" to "Krusty's Clown College," as that is clearly the spelling used in the episode, which I am watching as I type this.

In "Today, I am a Clown", Krusty says his full name is Herschel Pinkes Remochel Krustofski. Check the spelling on that.- B-101 23:06, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Rusty Nails
66.167.252.174 03:47, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC): The commentary track for Krusty Gets Busted mentions only Rusty Nails as the inspiration for Krusty. There's an online newspaper article confirming this (http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=22896) as well as numerous other fan sites.

Why does Sideshow Mel redirect to this page?? - Sajt 02:00, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Pork products
Assuming Krusty keeps kosher, isn't it unlikely that his brand of pork products caused his heart attack?
 * It's implied that Krusty doesn't keep kosher.

Waitress: And for you, sir? Rabbi K: Ah, let's see. I want a nice sandwich. But the Joey Bishop, eh, too fatty. the Jackie Mason? I dunno, sauerkraut makes me            gas. Bruce Willis? I don't even like his work! What is this? Krusty the Klown? Waitress: That's ham, sausage, and bacon, with a smidge of mayo. Rabbi K: What!? Waitress: On white bread. --8f05, "Like Father, Like Clown" RE-DIRECT --Wasabe3543 05:20, 8 September 2005 (UTC) maybe they should be a re-direct to herschel penkus yeruchan krustofski.
 * That's not implied. It is possible though. TJ Spyke 03:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Krusty is shown consuming a pork sandwich in The Simpsons Movie (though he promptly spits it out afterward, kosher laws prohibit even the handling of pork, let alone placement in one's mouth). --BenStein69 (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Sex Couldrin
That was Wiggem who said the Sex Couldrin line, with the revrends wife spelling sex and Children

No it wasnt whoever you are.Davie4264 21:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Jewish atheist?
This article is listed both in "Jewish comedy" and "Fictional atheists". Myself I've always believed that being a Jew was about religion, and, although born by Jewish parents, an atheist person should not be labelled by that religion. Just like I, being the grandchild of a member of some charismatic congregation, am an atheist.--84.48.93.232 22:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The beginning of the Jew article states that it is an "ethno-religious" group. I'm honestly quite surprised that you find being a Jew and an atheist as a contradiction.  Considering oneself Jewish solely as a cultural or ethnic identity is very common in the U.S. and the Western world in general, and this extends to atheists.  Woody Allen would be a good example.  Here's a whole article: Atheist Jew.


 * In addition to that, it's The Simpsons. I wouldn't make a fuss over any apparent contradiction you see. --Palpatine 03:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree we shouldn't make a lot of fuss over an apparent contradiction - which makes me wonder if we should include such a categorization. That he's not Jewish, I think no one could make a case for.  That he's not an atheist, I think some could. --Othersider 09:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Krusty-Brand
What about Krusty-Brand Duck sausage pizza?

His name
all these idiots call him Krustofksy, but it's spelt Krustofski. We need to change that name everywhere we can.

His name is spelled "Krusty the Clown" on the show
His name is Krusty the Clown and it should be spelled that way in the article. If they used "Klown" at some point early on in the shorts, that should have no bearing on how we spell Krusty's name now. Otherwise, we would have to accept that the characters are supposed to look like they originally did as well. Does anyone think that this should be the image on the Homer Simpson article? I'm going to make the change. Croctotheface 21:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * In Lisa's Sax, Bart watches 'the Krusty the Klown Story.' 12.218.145.112 23:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * "Clown" is how his name is usually spelled. It's spelled that way on the official site (click through the flash). One or two instances of "Klown" doesn't make it correct. Croctotheface 03:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not "one of two instances", they have used "Klown" many times. Just saying. TJ Spyke 03:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * On Behind the Laughter, his name is spelled "Krusty the Klown". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.93.82 (talk • contribs) Croctotheface 02:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * If you say so. The Simpsons website has "clown" and I can't think of an example from the show where they spelled it with a K.  Croctotheface 02:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * What is the Problem? Why can't we just include a line to the effect of: "...also spelled Krusty the Klown in some instances."? It's not like there is one single coherent Simpsons canon. There are numerous episodes which contradict each other. --BjKa (talk) 09:21, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Title
I think the article title should be changed from "Krusty" to "Krusty the Clown".

Is Krustilu a pun?
Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball named Desilu studios. Krustylu is a reference to this but it's more correct to call this an allusion, than a pun.

Shouldn't be Sir Krusty
In the British honours system, a knighted person is only called Sir Whatever if a citizen of the commonwealth. Not being a subject of the Queen, Krusty is not entitled to use that style. --Riido 07:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ...and even still, he doesn't use the title in the show, and he was interrupted in the middle of the ceremony. I'm with not including the "sir".  Croctotheface 07:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Self-hating Jew
I removed the "citation needed" after the sentence: "even openly self-identified as a "self-hating Jew"" since I don't see why that would need a citation when nothing else has one...? DeanHarding 05:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Krusty → Krusty the Clown — The character from The Simpsons should be listed by his "full name", rather than just his first name. Krusty the Clown is a more appropriate title for an article than just "Krusty." Every other character on the show is listed by their full name (ex: Lenny Leonard, not Lenny (The Simpsons) ). Crashintome4196 01:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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 * 1) Support kinda shocked this isn't this way already. JPG-GR 01:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support - for the record, this was at Krusty the Klown for almost two years, then Krusty the Clown for almost another two years. Most google hits for just Krusty simpsons that aren't one of the two full names seem to be 'in-universe' references. 76.22.4.86 04:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support - Makes sense to me. TheHYPO 19:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Support - I'm not sure whether it should by K or C for clown, as it is different in the show, but The Sea Captain's page is called The Sea Captain, so this should be no different, as Krusty the Clown is what he is most called. Gran2 19:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "Klown" is almost never used. The page should not be at that name. Croctotheface 19:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Having looked at the offcial site, yes C is the correct spelling, so I no longer have a problem there. Gran2 21:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Support I have no problem with moving it, although usually articles just use the names, ie. Timothy Lovejoy, Clancy Wiggum, Montgomery Burns, Seymour Skinner, etc. But, there are exceptions, ie. Sideshow Bob, Comic Book Guy, The Sea Captain, etc. -- Scorpion 14:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.  Balls

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 06:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Full name
Do we have a source for the spelling of Krusty's middle names? (For example, is it Shmoikel or Schmoikel? Or something else entirely?) Also, is the Hebrew text in the lead really necessary? Zagalejo^^^ 19:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll start looking for a source on his name. As for the Hebrew text, no it's not necessary, I just forgot to remove it. -- Scorpion0422 21:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The source is Today I Am a Clown where he mentions his full name himself. Imho that should be enough, it being a primary source. And if you cannot find a source on the spelling, I'd say the default or more common spelling of the names should be used. --SoWhy Talk 16:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Mirai no Krusty
There should be some mention of future-Krusty, and how he looks the same each time he appears... a grotesquely wrinkled guy in a wheelchair with a blanket over his legs (possibly a reference to somebody famous?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 23:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

GA review
Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Teh Rote (talk) 01:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Well written: Marginal pass. The prose seems clear and easy to understand. I was never confused in the body text. The lead section, however, still needs a bit of work. For example, nothing is mentioned about reception. You should add that ASAP.
 * 2) Factually accurate: Pass. Everything is very well referenced.
 * 3) Broad in coverage: Huge pass.
 * 4) Neutral: Pass. I couldn't find any serious bias at all.
 * 5) Stable: Pass. It's as stable as any other Simpsons article.
 * 6) Images: Pass, but I'm a little concerned about the use of two in the "Role in the series" section. That seems a little much - one would be sufficient, so I'll take it down soon.

Wife
In The Day the Violence Died He says that Lester and Eliza helped to regoncile with his estranged wife. IS this sufficent to be placed in the info box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.221.176 (talk) 05:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

It's KrustofskY, not KrustofskI
In Like Father, Like Clown, the name on Krusty's father's door is clearly spelled with a "y" at the end. Please make the appropriate changes to this article.

Also, in the episode "Bart the Fink," Krusty's show is changed to "Herschel Krustofsky's Clown-Related Entertainment Show" by the IRS.184.59.7.32 (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Original idea behind Krusty the Klown and reference to Homer Simpson
In the DVD audio commentary for the Season 6 episode "Homie The Clown", Matt Groening states that "Krusty was meant to be Homer in clown makeup....the idea was that bart worshipped this clown, but had no respect for his father". The statement "But they're basically the same looking person" is then added by another contributor.

The statement "He was designed to look like Homer Simpson with clown make-up, with the original idea being that Bart has no respect for his father, but worships a television clown who looks like him" is a more accurate representation of the stated idea behind the character than the current article statement "He was designed to look like Homer Simpson with clown make-up, with the original idea being that Bart worships a television clown who looks like his own father", as it demonstrates the contrast in the two relationships more clearly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.112.236 (talk) 12:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Ironically in the "Clown College" episode Homer does look like Krusty the Clown clone-except for the voice! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.126.88 (talk) 12:45, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Inspiration for Krusty's show?
I was reading about the recently deceased Soupy Sales, and it struck me that his TV kid's show from the '50s and '60s was similar to Krusty's show, i.e., silly, edgy improv skits, pies in the face, etc. I wonder if Krusty's show was partially based on Soupy Sales? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65tosspowertrap (talk • contribs) 18:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

There were children's shows around the country at the time, all taking from one another. And Soupy Sales hardly invented the pie throw.

MarkinBoston (talk) 19:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Krusty's family
Why no mention of Luke Perry being his half-brother, as featured in the season 4 episode "Krusty gets Kancelled"? 68.196.19.147 (talk) 22:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

It's a Wikipedia article, not a transcript of every show. Given that it's a cartoon character, the entry is already pretty big, don't you think?

```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkinBoston (talk • contribs) 19:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Krusty in Congress
This page mentionned that Krusty as a congressman was never referred in the show past its first episode. I do remember a later episode where the simpsons appear in front of a congress committee and Krusty is shown as sitting in the committee although he did not have any lines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.47.154 (talk) 10:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Krusty's gonna die
Hi, sorry for my bad englisch, i am usually do not edit here in en:wikipedia because it wont help the project with my low english skills ;-) I found this News on e german TV-website, Krusty is going to die in Episode A Clown in the Dumbs, Al Jean said. Here is the source in german: http://www.quotenmeter.de/n/71979/simpsons-macher-wollen-kult-figur-opfern

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