Talk:Kuhl's maskray

Spelling of Common name.
Is it Bluespotted Ray, bluespotted ray, Blue Spotted Ray etc. You need to be consistent and use the "official" common name. Capitalization of the name does matter!
 * Done. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

There is no "Official" common name. Common names change depending on locale, and are usually regional for lesser known species. Due to the obvious confusion between this species and the ribbontail I have reflected the recent taxonomic changes into the Neotrygon genus, thus using the common name blue-spotted maskray to help distinguish from the other blue-spotted ray.-130.102.82.2 (talk) 07:18, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Things I've Learned on Wikipedia

 * Bulleted list item
 * metric conversions
 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanfordbound 14 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This goes on your talk page.--JimmyButler (talk) 22:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you Mr.Butler. Stanfordbound 14 (talk) 03:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about the parasite section; all but the first sentence in that section are fragments. A sentence typically contains at least a subject noun and a verb. There may be a way to set that up as a table which is beyond my formatting skills.--JimmyButler (talk) 04:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I totally agree. I am also unsure of how to put the table up. But I will definitively research it. Thank You, Stanfordbound 14 (talk) 13:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Is the new table along the lines of what you were looking for? Stanfordbound 14 (talk) 14:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Stuff to fix
Taxonomy I suggest expanding taxonomy with some extrapolation on perhaps the family or order level if theres anything notable about the family.

"Kuhl's stingray (Neotrygon kuhlii) is not often referred to as a blue spotted ray. only the blue spotted "ribbon-tail" stingray (Taeniura lymma) should be reffered to in this way." This is incorrect. N. kuhlii is referred to as a blue spotted ray. Therefore to distinguish between the two Neotrygon kuhlii should be "blue-spotted maskray" and Taeniura lymma "blue-spotted ribbontail ray"-130.102.82.2 (talk) 07:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Description and behavior "and the placement of the eyes allows the ray to see almost everything behind themselves" i would reword it to -the eyes are positioned to allow them a wide angle of view.

"which allow water to be brought to the gills to help them breathe" should be reworded to say -to allow them to breath(or whatever the aquatic equivalent is called)

give a more definitive measurement for the barbs as large and medium size does not mean much

Diet move the picture of shrimp up next to the section on diet rather than its current place next to reproduction.

the shrimp picture should be re-captioned to A Bluespotted stingrays main foodsource(or prey) Shrimp is not the main food source (references to follow soon, so I have since changed this to say "one of the..."-130.102.82.2 (talk) 07:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Reproduction "This means that the embryos are retained within the mother's body in eggs until ready to be hatched." should be reworded to --The embryos are retained in eggs within the mother's body in eggs until they are ready to be hatched.

" these pups range from 6 inches (150 mm) width to 13 inches (330 mm) long at birth." this doesn't make any sense as the your range consists of two separate measurements of length and width.

'A study done in south-east Queensland, Australia in 2009, shows that the mating season is in October and November and the ovulating season is in the Australian summer (December 1- February 28/29), which also coincides with the embryonic development.[8]" the reference to the study is unneeded as that information should be in your references.

"which also coincides with the embryonic development" get rid of "also"

habitat "0–90 meters or 0–295 feet," put the feet in parentheses to clarify the sentence

Threats and Protected Areas "Shoalwater and Corio Bay's Area Ramsar Site in Queensland, Australia, and The Great Barrier Reef Marine Park, also in Queensland, are places where the Bluespotted stingray is under high protection" this entire sentence is confusing and needs to be rewritten also is "shoalwater" one or two words?

"general destruction" cant you just say destruction?

"farm fertilizers" cant it just be fertilizers?

Predators needs expansion the killer whale pic should be moved up into the predators section rather than in human interaction.

Human Interaction this section should be expanded

Conservation If theres no conservation being done for these rays then why make a section for it?

Parasites you need an explanation of what the table of parasites has to do with anything

Dmanrulz180 (talk) 19:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much Davis(: You're the best, I knew you'd be the perfect person to ask for help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanfordbound 14 (talk • contribs) 03:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

A few comments and suggestions
Stanfordbound asked me to review this article. I'm not sure what sort of review is appropriate at this stage. The article seems to be shaping up quite nicely, but I think the focus should still be on filling out content. I consolidated the references in the article that are referred to more than once (you can see how that is done by looking at the code). Here are a few comments and suggestions.




 * FishBase is an important source, and you haven't used it. See


 * Get someone to draw a distribution map from the information given here (click on the map at the top right).


 * According to the IUCN web site the bluespotted stingray is classified as Data Deficient, but you have it listed as Least Concern.


 * You might consider using some more of the images available at Commons


 * See if you can find some appropriate videos from |%22blue+spotted+stingray%22|%22Neotrygon+kuhlii%22|%22Kuhl%27s+stingray%22&oq=%22bluespotted+stingray%22|%22blue+spotted+stingray%22|%22Neotrygon+kuhlii%22|%22Kuhl%27s+stingray%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l0l258l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0 here and other places. One way you can add them to the article is to use a media box, like the one on the right.


 * Can you find more details about its venom, how it delivers it, it effects and so on?


 * Can you find more details about how hammerheads and killer whales hunt and catch the rays? For example, do the hammerheads pin them to the seafloor with their hammerheads? How are they able to cope with the venomous spines?


 * Can you make the section on parasites less of a table of Greek names, and more of a discussion, in terms of tapeworms and so on, that the average reader might relate to?

Regards --Epipelagic (talk) 06:17, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, I see a distribution map already exists (see on the right). --Epipelagic (talk) 20:06, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That is the map I made and was on the page. That is ironic, I will put it back up. And thank you so much for everything, you have been a very generous helper(: Stanfordbound 14 (talk) 14:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Some issues
Hi, I've looked over this article and noted some inaccuracies:


 * The fossil range needs to be cited, but I don't believe that N. kuhlii is actually known from the fossil record.
 * "The population of this species is greatly debatable due to the five different species of rays in Indonesia. Also, there are two different subgroups: the Java and Bali form." -- what the source says is that there are at least 5 forms of N. kuhlii in Indonesia, two of which are "Java" and "Bali". There are in fact far more than 5 species of rays total in Indonesia.
 * Neotrygon (note the capitalization and italics) does not mean "mask". It comes from neo=new and trygon=stingray.
 * The following source: refers to the bluespotted ribbontail ray (Taeniura lymma), not this species. Thus it cannot be used for this article.
 * There is no evidence that orcas use tonic immobility to prey on this species in particular. One should be cautious in applying general statements to particular species.
 * The stinging spine of this species is not 12 inches long. The statement in the source refers to the stingray with the longest sting, the giant freshwater stingray.
 * The columns of the parasite table should use proper taxonomic ranks.

Hope this is helpful. -- Yzx (talk) 23:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Fossil record
The citation of the fossil record in the article is http://www.fishbase.org/summary/FamilySummary.php?ID=20, this doesn't appear to be the correct species information. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 15:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Range map
The range map has at least one error - it does not show the Red Sea as within the range of the bluespotted ray. I can confirm from extensive diving in the Egyptian (i.e. northern) Red Sea that the bluespotted ray is found there. Presumably, its range would include most if not all of at least the shallow coastal areas of the Red Sea - more research should be done on this. Cheers. Mainemce (talk) 22:00, 24 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mainemce (talk • contribs) 21:57, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree with this -- this animal is definitely commonly spotted (groan) sorry for pun in the Red Sea. Picture here for evidence: http://www.scubatravel.co.uk/stingray.html

This reference: http://eol.org/pages/211438/details says "Taeniura lymma, commonly known as blue-spotted stingrays, is found primarily in the Indo-west Pacific. They may be found in shallow continental shelf waters ranging from temperate to tropical seas. They prefer areas with sandy or sedimentary substrates in which they bury themselves. Sightings of Taeniura lymma have been recorded in Australia in shallow tropical marine waters from Ningaloo Reef, Western Australia to Bundaberg, Queensland. They can be found at depths of up to 25 m and have also been recorded to range in location from southern Africa and the Red Sea to the Solomon Islands."

The Solomon islands is also missing from the range map.

Richard Clegg (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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