Talk:Kusza coat of arms

possible hoax not notable original research
See email list questioning the name, lack of the name on this list of surnames, no search results at this heraldry website, does not look at all like the irish coat being sold at this commercial website of coats.

The most troubling: no matches on Burke's Peerage, also a complain on a personal page that British orders are trying to supress their orders with a link the page of "Count Michael Subritzky-Kusza (of the ancient Noble House of Kusza)", which is a dead link to geocities, see the wayback machine copy which seems to be authored by the creator of this same page, the only research I could find is from the same author, see the author of the page visiting the russian collegue of heraldry which is the only serious mention that I could find out of him.... or it was, until I noticed that he is embassador for it (see bottom of page). I also notice that this is part of the "Order of St. Stanislas", whatever that is.

It seems to me that all sources are originated at The Polish Nobility Association, for which the author of the article is embassador. So, either conflict of interest or original research or both. --Enric Naval (talk) 04:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The coat of arms seems genuine (and is notable, as other CoAs are) - it really existed in PLC - but it is unlikely it was used only by that family (which does not seem notable in any case).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 13:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be nice to find reliable sources on the actual usage of the coat during medieval times. I see that it could be linked nicely to historical events in Polland. A reliable source on the origin of the legend would be nice too, altought I suspect strongly that most if not all sources must be on polish. --Enric Naval (talk) 01:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks lousy to me, I cant find any polish sources. I'm polish and can't find anything in english nor polish to cite this, barely notable eather. CindyAbout /T/P/C/ 08:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

stubbing this article
It's been a couple of years, and this article has become a WP:COATRACK for explaining lots of details about the Subritszy family in New Zealand. Most if not all the reliable sources are about the Subritzy family and don't mention this coat. Many if not all the sources relating the coat to the family are authored by Mike Subritsky, who has a conflict of interest here.

I plan to stub the article to something like Bieńkowski_coat_of_arms, using as source these websites that lists several families  and. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have now stubbed the article. --Enric Naval (talk) 17:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)