Talk:Kyle

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The following were just removed on the grounds that no one would come to this page looking for them: I notice that Kyle Katarn is still listed (not that I'm complaining, he's cool :-) ). I don't see why he's being considered someone people might come to this page to look for, but, say, Kyle Rote or Kyle Rasmussen isn't. --Icarus 04:57, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Kyle Ranson, CEO of InFocus Corperation
 * Kyle Owen Rasmussen, United States Gold Medalist in 1998 Nagano Winter Olympics
 * Kyle Rote, New York Giants
 * Kyle Golzer, A Friend —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.133.49.223 (talk) 17:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to remove him if you want; I don't know enough about the game to know whether he's commonly addressed simply as "Kyle" in the game or not. JYolkowski // talk 20:59, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Why Kyle Katarn should not be listed? He's a fictional character as the others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.76.37.144 (talk) 14:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Another culling of the names unlikely to be searched for here.
 * Kyle Charbonneau, actor.

Kyle matheney-world famous oompa-Loompa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.127.29 (talk) 19:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The camera man for the online movie series Pure Pwnage.

--Hansnesse 04:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

There are multiple origins of this word. With respect to the surname, the most plausible denotes families from the District of Kyle, in Ayrshire. The District of Kyle derives its name from any of three origins: coille (Gaelic - wood), caol (Gaelic - narrow strait (of water)), or Coel (Brythonic - as in Coel Hen)...the last of these being the local tradition evidenced in Robert Burns' works. Some placenames in the Highlands and Islands have obvious geographic and linguisitic clues to their origins, like Kyle of Lochalsh which refers to a strait of water and from the Gaelic 'caol' meaning strait. Kyle in Ayrshire was a predominantly Brythonic Celt area (forming part of Stratchlyde) until at least 750 AD when the Angles of Northumbria took "the plain of Kyle"

Dear Friends,

I attempted to link directly to a list of derivations however the link appears to have a space in it and I couldn't figure how to separate the link from the title -- the direct link is --

http://www.kylesociety.org/Kyle_NameHistory.htm#Name Derivations

The argument that the name "Kyle" derives from the word for "Narrows" or Ocean Strait is probably correct in the (sparsely populated) Highlands, where there are many ocean straits and clearly is the source for place names such as "Kyle of Lochash."

However many, or most Kyles probably got their surname from residing in the several hundred square miles of the two Kyle districts of Ayrshire, in lowland Scotland – Kyle Regis and Kyle Stewart in the early period when surnames evolved from place names (i.e. John of Kyle).

For example, Prince Charles is the ”Baron of Kyle” and that title descends to him through the Stewart Kings who owned both Kyle Districts and were early on called the “Stewarts of Kyle.”

In the Kyle districts of Ayrshire local tradition traces the name to Cole Hen AKA Old King Cole and in addition to his cairn or grave there are a dozen place names associated with his last battle and defeat there.

Italic text'In the Kyle Districts of Ayrshire there is not one single ocean strait or narrows.'Italic text

In the earliest known written clue of one derivation of the name is in the "Workman's" heraldic manuscript, circa 1565, kept in Scotland by the Lord Lyon, King of Arms. In the manuscript, next to the name and arms of Kyle is written "Kyle's coat these are candelstyks or Kylles." So apparently "Kylles" was a Scottish word for candlesticks.

There are also many other possibilities for derivation of the name Kyle and certainly different family’s have different derivations:

In Kyle itself, the origin of the name is traditionally attributed to King Cole. In addition to the local tradition in Kyle, Ayrshire that the name derives from Old King Cole (aka Coelius), there are a number of other possible derivations of the same phonetic name as follows:

1.	Harrison’s Surnames of the United Kingdom identifies the name and its major variants of Keil, Kile, or Kyle, as being of Celtic origin from the word Coal “narrow.” It defines it as “Dweller at the Narrow or Strait”. Even today many Scottish straits retain that name i.e. the “Kyle” of Lochash, "Kyle" of Sutherland, etc. PLAY "KYLES OF BUTE." (As an aside, there are actually no "Kyles," meaning "narrows" or "straights," in the District of Kyle, Ayrshire.)

2.	Some Variations might have stemmed from European forms (Kyle from Sweden, Kehl, Keil, Keyl, Coil, Kail from German and Dutch families; Kuyle from Flemish).

3.	Robert Chalmers of Ayrshire in his History of Scotland, said the word Kyle means “a woody region.”

4.	Another possible connection is that in Gaelic Cill means 'church, churchyard'

5.	One source claims that “kylle” in old Scotland meant candle.

6.	R.A. Kyle of Belfast contends the name derives from the Anglo-Saxon "Cil" meaning "Ship" and is related to the names "Kail" and "Kaile."

7.	In Modern Welsh (the language closest to the ancient Brythonic language of Kyle), Coel means "Omen or Belief." Coelio means "to Believe or Trust."

8.	One source asserts that the Irish Gaelic equivalent of Kyle is Mac Suile, and claims this to be corroborated by the summary of returns of local registrars, published by Matheson in 1901, where it is recorded that in the Ballycastle district (Co. Antrim) “Kyle” and “MacSuile” were used as synonyms by members of the same family.

9.	Coyle, a not uncommon surname in Co. Cavan Ireland, derives from the Irish name Mac Giolla Chomgaill, or “Son of the Devotee of St. Comhghal”-- Comhghal (pronounced Cowal) being a two-fisted priest of the 7th Century who founded Bangor Abbey, at one time the largest monastery in Ireland. (Comhghal also accompanied the better-known St. Columba on his trip to Scotland to convert the Picts and confront the Loch Ness Monster.) The same name is sometimes anglicized as MacIlhoyle or MacCool.

10.	There is a phonetic similarity to the word "kyloe" also "kyley;" one of the small long-horned breed of Highland cattle (Old English cy-leah – cow pasture) – Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology – contributed by Roland Symons.

11.	'Kyles' was a form of skittles (bowling) and some might have been given the name as a nickname. The game is apparently quite old as there are two 14th century manuscripts which show a game called club Kayles-- from the French "quilles" or skittles. For an example of the usage of 'Kyle' in this context, see the poem The Battle Of Sherramuir by Robert Burns. Source: Sorbie Pages and Skittles History

12.	The name Coelestius or Caelestius was a common first name in the Late Roman Empire among Christians meaning "Heavenly." One Coelestius, a Roman educated Briton was the instigator of the Pelagian heresy at the time of King Cole. PF Turner in "The Real King Arthur" postulates this as King Cole's given name.

13.	Finally, there was a well known Roman Family or “Gens” called Coelius (aka Caelius) for which, see discussion below under Old King Cole. Respectfully,

Josh Kyle

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That last line about a female character in flight plan being named Kyle seems really unnecessary. DevelopmentArrested 00:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

The article
needs a rewrite. It's in that bad of shape. Kwsn (Ni!) 06:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you be more specific? I have copy-edited the article mostly by adding formatting and links, and I don't know what more needs to be done. -Pgan002 (talk) 07:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Could someone write the pronounciation of Kyle in the first paragraph? Help the readers of Wikipedia who don't speak English.--Jean Yevenes (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Add
Could someone add Kyle Schuneman to the list of "famous people"? He's a famous under 30 interior designer. Based out of LA, he's listed on all the top designer lists and appears often on TV and in print. His website www.kyleschuneman.com and he's already linked in Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Schuneman (although, it seems a bit outtdated.) (talk) 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Related Names
"Related names	 Kylie, Kyla" Coil, links to one of 'em twirly things, Kylie, links to Kylie Minogue, and Kyle links to, well, Kyla. Not one of those seems half-decent enough to exist. Kylie should link to Kylie (name), but neither of the other two have pages about the name. (I actually made this account when I saw this page needs sorting, but it's semi-protected xD) Kroberthughes (talk) 00:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.221.157.96, 4 October 2010
add to fictional characters *Selina Kyle, Catwoman from DC comics

98.221.157.96 (talk) 22:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: She belongs at Kyle (surname) because Kyle is not her first name. She is already added to that list. Thanks, Stickee (talk)  01:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)