Talk:Kyle Chapman (New Zealand activist)

Photo
Image:KyleChapman.jpg has been claimed as copyrighted by the slightly increasingly noted professional news photographer, Cameron Burnell. It does not depict a unique and unreproducable historic event. Nor are we using it to comment criticly on the photograph itself (Why is it so purple anyway?). It's an original-sized portrait (aka snapshot) and I can't see the fair use exemption being applicable in this case. [This page seems like a better place to discuss the matter than the image talk page.] Other thoughts? -Willmcw July 4, 2005 08:06 (UTC)


 * The photo was on an indynews page and marked as PD, where I got it from. I haven't edited the wiki for a while so didn't notice its disappearance... porges 08:51, July 17, 2005 (UTC)


 * After further discussion it appeared that the claimant was indeed Burnell, that it was his photo, and that he genuinely wished it not be listed as PD. Since there was no legitimate fair use claim we deleted it. -Willmcw 10:12, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

POV
After having reviewed this article for a second time I've decided to flag it for POV. Obviously some bias has crept in especially regarding apparent harassment Kyle has received. Perhaps some sources would be good here. I would be happy to help rewrite the article. Bactoid (talk) 05:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The article was "stubbed" last year due to a complaint, presumably from the subject. We shouldn't restore that information without good sources. That version had a couple of sources, but they may have gond dead. Proquest has about 50 articles that either mention him or are about him. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 07:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The Survive Club is apparently a survivalist group. A type of club very common and well understood in the USA. The statement that he that "denies being a militia and denies any racist ties despite the histories of some of its members" is simply biased.  There is no evidence cited that it is either a militia or racist.203.184.41.226 (talk) 19:34, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
A major editor of this page states that he is the subject, see. Dougweller (talk) 13:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Inappropriate tagging
I have twice removed the six-month old instances of the Autobiography and COI templates from this article, pointing out that no specific issues have been identified, only to be reverted by User:Haminoon, with references to the section, which merely points out that a (minor) contributor to the article (most of whose edits have been modified or removed; and at least one of which removed a clear breach of WP:BLP) claims to be the subject.

The documentation for the latter template includes (links and emboldening in original):

"Use this tag to request help with an article that is biased or has other serious problems as a direct result of the editing done by the subject of the article or by a person with a close connection to the subject (e.g., professional public relations staff).

Do not use this tag unless there are significant or substantial problems with the article's neutrality as a result of the contributor's involvement. Like the other pov tags, this tag is not meant to be a badge of shame or to "warn the reader" about the identities of the editors.

Do not use this tag if you can quickly solve the problem...

Like the other neutrality-related tags, if you place this tag, you should promptly start a discussion on the article's talk page to explain what is non-neutral about the article."

and continues (emphasis added):

This tag may be removed by any editor after the problem is resolved, if the problem is not explained on the article's talk page, and/or if no current attempts to resolve the problem can be found."

The use of the templates in this article does not meet the former criteria; and so they should be removed. This is a WP:BLP policy matter. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

"Occupation: White supremacist"?
A recent edit stated in the infobox that Chapman's "Occupation" is "White supremacist". While he may be that, I don't think that is his occupation; it's not demonstrated that he earns a living by being a white supremacist. I have removed that claim. HenryCrun15 (talk) 22:58, 24 March 2017 (UTC)


 * One can validly state an occupation (e.g. "Student" or "Home duties" or "Retired") without earning a living from it. Maybe Mr Chapman can give us evidence. Robin Patterson (talk) 12:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Tables not matching info in text?
I was just doing a quick edit on this one, to tie in with some Australian stuff, but it looks to me as if the parties in the table (specifically 2007) don't seem to match the content in the lead and body (National Front is given twice). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:33, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Birth date and place
The Taumarunui article lists him (without sources) as being born there in 1971. The date fits OK with the Waikato Times article of May 11 2009 (ref near the top) saying he was 38. Any better documentation? Birth certificate? Robin Patterson (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2022 (UTC)