Talk:Kyle Sandilands/Archives/2013

Ernie Dingo
"From the TodayFM website, many fan's have expressed their opinions claiming that Dingo was out of line calling Sandiland's a "Wanker" on air."

ok, i'm not even going to start discussing the multiple wrong apostrophes. this whole thing is clearly written by an 8 y/o dyslexic fanboy. //He's still a fucking dickhead though

I was wondering why the contreversy section does not contain any mention of Ernie Dingo? The above comment aside, I have a few links to that incident: http://www.defamer.com.au/2008/09/ernie_dingo_would_like_to_make_it_very_clear_that_despite_what_kyle_sandilands_would_have_you_believe_hes_never_actually_eaten_a_baby/ http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/09/12/1220857796881.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELVDJh0AM4Q http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/09/ernie-dingo-calls-kyle-a-commercial-wanker.html http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,,24334530-5013560,00.html 58.165.249.194 (talk) 00:52, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Last time I checked, telling the truth wasn't "out of line". Face it, Sandilands is a wanker. 203.161.84.114 (talk) 11:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm on the dingos side sandilands is a wanka. I think that when brains and manners where handed out he was hiding under a rock (which he should return to)... Posted by Aaron 10/04/2010 0955 AEST —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.237.64 (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Removing libelous information
I am strongly backing my removal of the information that I believe is libelous from this article. Scotch none of it has sources and other editors have labelled it with the NPOV tag. The WP:LIVING guideline says that this information MUST be removed. MyNam e IsNotBob  22:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Which content were you referring to? Scullser1981 03:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

- Hi MyNameIsNotBob, I strongly support your edit (except that the person's name was reverted to 'Stupid Kyle Sandilands', but that was a minor issue). This page has clearly become a target for vandalism and NPOV edits. I have tried to neutralise POV and have reinstated a 'controversy' section with the difference being NPOV references added to all 'controversies'. I encourage you to cast your watchful eye over the edit and give feedback. --Jirrupin 00:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

"Black Devil" comment
Is this latest edit really necessary? Mark Holden is not 'black' in an ethnic sense - Kyle was only referring to the fact that Mark was wearing all black clothing. It was a rather tame thing to say in my opinion and is not notable enough to deem mention in an encyclopaedia. The edit itself admits that there has been no fallout from it - I'd suggest waiting to see if there is (which I doubt there will be) before putting a mention of that in this article. Catchwa 11:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

POV
I'm not a fan of Kyle or anything really. I mean, I don't hate him, but I'm more of a Ian Dickson person myself as far as the aus idol judges go. But both this article and the Kyle and Jackie O show article really just seem to be a big list of things people hate about him/them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.78.84.7 (talk) 10:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

NPOV doesn't mean the guy isn't widely hated. It all looks pretty well sourced. If you find a source that says he isn't actually the worlds biggest tosser, by all mean add the information. Ryan Albrey (talk) 05:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

When someone puts themselves out there as an alleged 'shock jock' then that's all that can be said about them. The guy has carefully constructed this image, it's not just people's points of view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.64.177 (talk) 21:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the guy does does seem to foster this image of a 'shock jock'. He seems more intent on evoking a 'I don't care what you think about me' image, 'as long as I get the attention for whatever I say: that's what counts!' approach to people. ((121.219.28.251 (talk) 02:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC))) 3rd time lucky!! (121.219.28.251 (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC))

I think kyle needs to disappear from radio, tv, and all other aspects of broadcast. keep his oppinions to himself and keep his mouth shut. And that would make the a substancialy better place. Picking on a fellow work mate for something that he may or may not be is not allowed, I can deffinately say if the guy worked for me he wouldn't keep his job for long. Kyle is exactly what has been said in the last article hes an attention seeking child that if he doesn't get seen he starts crap with the little man to get it. I think jackie o needs to cut her ties with the guy and make a stand that no one needs to listen to his crap and the rest of the world doesn't need to here his petty little thoughts... Added By Aaron 10/4/2010 0943 aest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.237.64 (talk) 23:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Re-Written
This page is shocking, I am going to do some research and re-write this page starting from today. All changes will be listed here under this heading. Please discuss and comment if you wish to participate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.72.39 (talk) 07:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's great, and it may require protection considering how much vandalism it's received. However I too saw the Enough Rope interview and Kyle was angered by Denton's questions, so removing the hostile state sentence and cite doesn't seem fair. This should be the first thing to seek consensus on. MartinSFSA (talk) 09:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There are some serious BLP issues with this page. I have semi-protected it due to it showing up on 4chan and marked out some issues that need to be resolved. Any article having "Controversy" as its first section header is already onto a loser. Stifle (talk) 14:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Agree on the BLP issues. I semi-protected the page for a week based on a request at RFPP, and was shocked at how lousy it was. I've done a bit of triage, but it needs more. I'm extending the protection to three weeks to give editors here enough of a breather to fix things up. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  15:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Upgraded to C-Class (WP: Big Brother)
I have upgraded this article to C-Class as it meets the criteria, the article has a good amount of information but not enough yet for B-Class. More reliable sources would be good to improve the article.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  23:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, Duh.

 * Sandilands has stated that he drinks up to 30 lattes a day, consumes up to 8 litres of Coca-Cola day,"eats plenty of chocolate", and loves cream buns covered in buttered bacon. Sandilands is also said to eat twelve sausage rolls, five hamburgers, at least six beef and cheese pies, four battered savaloys and a half kilogram of M&M's before lunchtime.[20] He also suffers from migraines and has a doctor on his staff to administer treatments (including injections) whenever a migraine strikes.

[The staff's] whole life is migraine prevention. I get bad migraines. I vomit like an althlete, my eyes are bloodshot and I sweat like an animal so their job is to make sure I don't puke on them.[20]

Kyle, ol mate. Don't you think there could be a connection? Twat. 58.168.126.163 (talk) 06:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Too one-sided
This article is obviously really biased and I am assuming that the person who has written it does not like Kyle at all. Everything Kyle has ever done has had negative connotations put up against it such as only stating the nasty comments he's made on Idol and none of the nicer ones, and emphasising the Dave Hughes incident to a large extent. What about the production company he's made or how his and Jackie O's radio show has reached number one? This page definitely needs to be fixed up and I would do it if I wasn't so busy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.170.85 (talk) 14:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's enough for those of us seriously disinterested in the subject to simply keep up reverting the vandalism--let alone research. You got time to complain, you got time to improve. MartinSFSA (talk) 10:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Whackhead Simpson prank
On 30 January 2009 Kyle was pranked on air by South African prankster Darren 'Whackhead' Simpson after Kyle made negative comments about Darren's jokes previously. Should this be under "controversies" perhaps? Although the prank was aimed at Kyle, it was actually his producer who was conned into thinking that Kyle would be interviewing Tom Cruise live.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/733461/kyle-and-jackie-o-pranked-live-on-air http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24972061-5012985,00.html

-- leuce (talk) 19:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Link Dead please remove
His webpage lists his MYSPACE page, Link now dead.

--Unsungheroz83 (talk) 01:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ Hope you don't mind I took the template off this page to make it look prettier. ~ Amory  (user • talk • contribs) 01:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

POV tag removal - discussion
I've removed the POV tag because I can't see any POV issues with the page. If there is anyone seriously complaining about this page, please state explicitly where the problems lie, rather than random IPs slapping a fact tag on and complaining the article is generally slanted to a POV. Timeshift (talk) 09:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Part ownership of The Piano Room in Kings Cross
I recall reading somewhere that Sandilands is a part owner in a King's Cross nightclub. The only refernece that I could find was in this article on John Ibrahim. Jherschel (talk) 11:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Place of recidence
Is anyone aware of where Kyle Sandilands lives, so as to improve the quality of information provided in this page? Alans1977 (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Sexist Comments
Somebody needs to fix this section as it's written it occurred in October. It was November 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.144.40.32 (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I got my dates mixed up; issue has been fixed. YuMaNuMa (talk) 22:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Also vodaphone, telstra, blackmore, holden, thr goodguys, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.82.133 (talk) 03:38, 24 November 2011 (UTC) The Daily Telegraph claims that Sandilands refuses to apologise 1 but I can verify that this is incorrect. I was tuned into the broadcast this morning and apologies were made at around 8.10am. He explicitly said sorry to Alison but defended his opinions. YuMaNuMa (talk) 04:21, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, what he said was:
 * "If you speak out against me I will defend myself like any normal Australian would do. If you took a personal offence to it Ali, I'm sorry to you but maybe you should think again before you start going certain people."
 * Quite a remarkable "apology". He's not sorry at all! He's blamed the journalist for causing his outburst. - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 05:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess it would only be appropriate to directly quote the sentence as it can be misinterpreted. Will attempt to fix the section now. YuMaNuMa (talk) 07:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

An apology?
I'm sorry, but this is pure spin:
 * On 24 November, Sandilands made a direct apology to Alison Stephenson for the comments he made and defended any claims that the comments had a sexist intention citing that the comments were only his own personal opinion in response to the journalist's opinion which were posted on news.com.au.

Here's what he really said, why don't we let the reader make their decision as to how genuine the apology is?
 * "If you speak out against me I will defend myself like any normal Australian would do. If you took a personal offence to it Ali, I'm sorry to you but maybe you should think again before you start going certain people."

To my mind, this doesn't sound like much of an apology. You can sourfce this to any one of a dozen reliable news sources, with URLs. To be NPOV, this article needs to be modified with his full statement. Right now, it's skewed his way! - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 05:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

More sponsors have pulled out
Mazda, Volkswagon and GIO Insurance have pulled their advertising from the program, and Pepsi are in discussions with management (see their Facebook wall) because they can't yank the promotions due to legal reasons (competitions). - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 05:55, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The Federal Government and Toys 'R Us have pulled out also. - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 06:37, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry I cannot see any post referencing the incident on radio show on Pepsi's Facebook wall hence comments about negotiations talk has been subsequently removed. YuMaNuMa (talk) 07:27, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Not looking very hard then. Currently I can see the following update - "Hello Stephanie, thanks for your thoughts. As you may have heard today there were not any of our ads running during the show. Pepsi does not condone any form of nastiness between people." I can create an account and upload a screenshot if would like :-) - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 06:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Changes
Please change the text "On 24 November, Sandilands made a direct apology to Alison Stephenson for the comments he made and defended any claims that the comments had a sexist intention citing that the comments were only his own personal opinion in response to the journalist's opinion which were posted on news.com.au" to: On 24 November, Sandilands said the following to Alison Stephenson:
 * "If you speak out against me I will defend myself like any normal Australian would do. If you took a personal offence to it Ali, I'm sorry to you but maybe you should think again before you start going certain people."

Can we also change:
 * Subsequent to the comments, nine major sponsors which includes Holden, The Good Guys, Vodafone, Telstra, Fantastic Furniture, Crazy John's, Blackmores and Medibank

to
 * Subsequent to the comments, a large number of major sponsors all withdrew advertisements from the Southern Cross Austereo network which the radio show is hosted on. These sponsors and advertisers include Holden, The Good Guys, Vodafone, Telstra, Fantastic Furniture, Crazy John's, Blackmores, Medibank and Mitsubishi. Aeroplane Jelly were also targetted, but they didn't advertise on the show; however they distanced themselves from the comments."

Thanks! - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 06:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am going to suspect that more sponsors will withdrew in response to aligning its 'values' with other companies. For this reason, I will not list any additional companies. YuMaNuMa (talk) 07:11, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's hardly neutral. And that doesn't make sense. The list of companies that have withdrawn from the show because of Kyle Sandilands has now reached 40. You can try to whitewash it if you like, I'm not concerned :-) But it's happening, and this page is less than useful because it doesn't note it. - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 06:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the grammar errors. I'm attempting to make the article as neutral as possible while properly citing. You should be concern if the article is not neutral, raise the issue and quote the sentence and possibly provide a paraphrase for it. The use of Facebook as source has been looked down upon by Wikipedia so try to use sources from the official website but if not then I guess it would be fine to use statements from Facebook page.


 * Anyways, I will attempt to get this page unlocked since there has been absolutely no sign of the main contributors here especially after such a significant event. YuMaNuMa Talk Contributions 08:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand, many thanks - I appreciate it. Normally I wouldn't use Facebook as a source, but in this case that is where the campaign is being fought. Can we add a link to the recent News Ltd post that they have lost 60% of their advertisers? - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 07:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Sexist Comments
Changed word censured to derogatory. Censured implies she is at fault for his vile judgement on her appearence, which is obviously not the case. Alans1977 (talk) 16:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

$10 million lost
According to media reports, the sum lost is not $8million, but $10 million. Also, ACMA are now investigating his comments. Can we update the article? - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 14:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌, unless you can find a source which says 10m, the current one says 8m. It's already been added about the acma--Jac 16888 Talk 01:17, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

A quick Google search will find you more references. You only need to make the attempt yourself if you don't believe me. I also note that the ACMA investigation info was added half an hour after I asked for the edit change. Ta. - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 03:52, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/kyle-costs-station-10m-as-another-sponsor-quits-20120117-1q4a8.html
 * http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/more-channels-but-tv-is-still-a-turn-off/story-fn5sqiu3-1226244472418
 * http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/kyle-sandilands-under-investigation-by-australian-communications-and-media-authority/story-e6frewyr-1226255195964
 * http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2012/01/27/acma-opens-sandilands-investigation/
 * http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/kyle-sandilands-not-worried-by-acma-inquiry/story-e6frg996-1226255784359
 * http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/radio-cuts-slack-for-sandilands-as-weightloss-agency-withdraws-ads/2423503.
 * Nice to see Wikipedia is happy to continue with inaccurate information in this article. Precisely how many news articles do you want me to reference? Are six reliable and verifiable sources not enough? - 58.163.175.192 (talk) 12:54, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. Banaticus (talk) 01:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Appreciated :-) 114.76.227.0 (talk) 10:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Enough Rope
Can we change it from:
 * On 22 August 2007 Sandilands was interviewed by Andrew Denton for Enough Rope.

to
 * Sandilands was interviewed by Andrew Denton for Enough Rope on August 22, 2007. A variety of issues were raised, including Sandilands being forced to leave home and his reaction to it and a number of radio "stunts" were aired. One stunt that was raised was when Sandilands put a young man in contact with his father to accuse him of having oral sex with another man, to which the young man's father objected.

Thanks! - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 11:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Good to see that Wikipedia pays so much attention to edit requests these days. Except, of couse, if you don't have to make any changes and you want to deny the edit request... - 58.163.175.192 (talk) 12:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment The provided audiofile (and included timehack, 18:53), could only be identified by entering edit mode. While the url source is reliable and the transcript reference on the page corresponds, it is a primary source. If an independent reliable source discussing this portion and its impact/import can be cited, the material can be considered for inclusion. For future reference, leave bare urls visible; there is/was no need to include it within reference tags. Dru of Id (talk) 21:58, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Not done. As Dru of Id posted, we can't call it a "stunt", without having a reference from someone else talking about the show. Banaticus (talk) 01:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice to see how inconsistent you are on that matter. Given that the reference to the "punch Dave Hughes in the throat" comment is directly to the ABC transcript of the show, sounds like a bit of a double standard being applied here... - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 01:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)