Talk:Lúcio Costa

Innacuracies
I'd like to comment on a few innacuracies concerning this bit here:

"Most streets have cloverleafs or traffic circles rather than intersections or traffic lights, so cars have no reason to stop. It is virtually impossible for pedestrians to travel east and west in the city without crossing the axial expressway and risking their lives."

In spite of having this fluid traffic, there is a rather efficient system of traffic lights that allows a pedestrian to cross from virtually every supersquare to another. As for the axial expressway, there are underground galleries, which pedestrians often choose not to use for reasons other than bad city planning (at least, regarding the original concept). Also, there's a somewhat high number of radars all around the city, so it's not like the cars are able to travel faster than expected anyway. It is true though, that the city is far from being pedestrian-friendly, but for other reasons (such as great distances due to the way the city was divided).

Other than that, shouldn't this bit of information be moved to "Brasília" anyway?

(Does anyone even read these talk pages, by the way?)
 * (Sometimes!) It is NOT "virtually impossible for pedestrians to travel east and west in the city", tough. The underground galleries are there, people don't use them because they're not clean and sometimes you have to walk too much to get to one of them (actually I think this is the foremost reason, people are lazy or simply don't want to waste their time...). Flavio Costa (talk) 14:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 40 years ago in a transportation engineering course, this design and the pedestrian problems were discussed. The professor stated that the design wrt crosswalks and such was a consequence of the death of Costa's wife.  She was killed by a car while crossing the street.  Costa was determined to prevent such deaths and as such designed the street system to separate pedestrians from cars as much as possible.  The result was that the design ended up unworkable for pedestrians.  I have no reference for this, however.  If someone knows of something, it may be useful to add to the article. 99.245.230.104 (talk) 06:02, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Weasel Words
I added the weasel words notice to this article. From the introduction to the "Controversies" and "Brasilia" sections that follow, it is clear that someone has an axe to grind. There may be legitimate points behind some of what is being said, but it all comes across as a point of view biased against Costa. Let's see some legitimate citations, not just "Some pedestrians complain" and "became famous for a long career in which he pretty much sucked at life." -- aluxeterna (talk) 04:53, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree. The whole article comes off as hostile and angry with its subject. I'm not disputing the content, but the wording is sarcastic and seems to present more contempt for Costa than information. I've added the (pov-check) tag to reflect this. Check my edit if you need to see an example of what I mean, but you ought to be able to tell by looking, I think. --Oceanhahn (talk) 00:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * To clarify, the section on Brasilia is is an especially greivous offender here, but the whole thing could use a look. I'd do it, but I'm too busy right now. Thanks! --Oceanhahn (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC).

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 21:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

– accurate spelling per sources: Lúcio (name) Brazilian city-planner; Ilídio Angolan freedom fighter; Hélder Mozambican and Portuguese footballers; Júlio César Brazilian footballers; Vítor Portuguese theatre director, Brazilian basketball player; Fábio Brazilian footballer and rural electricity entrepreneur; Márcio footballers. Compare Donté Stallworth, Noël Coward, Renée Geyer, etc. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Lucio Costa → Lúcio Costa
 * Ilidio Machado → Ilídio Machado
 * Helder Muianga → Hélder Muianga
 * Helder Esteves → Hélder Esteves
 * Julio Cesar do Nascimento → Júlio César do Nascimento
 * Julio Cesar Rodrigues de Souza → Júlio César Rodrigues de Souza
 * Vitor Gonçalves → Vítor Gonçalves (theatre director)
 * Vitor Benite → Vítor Benite
 * Fabio Rogerio Correa Lopes → Fábio Rogério Correa Lopes
 * Fabio Rosa → Fábio Rosa
 * Marcio Richardes → Márcio Richardes
 * Marcio Souza Da Silva → Márcio Souza Da Silva
 * Support; more accurate spelling. bobrayner (talk) 12:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and past outcomes. --BDD (talk) 17:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Support The use of the correct native language diacritics / accents in the names helps users know at first sight that the subject is not an English speaking [native] person. For example the footballer Sócrates.warshytalk 15:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 00:36, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Support per encyclopedic correctness. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:12, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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